Re: Linux Meltdown (KPTI) fix and how it affects performance?

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Hello,

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:42:53 -0600 Adam Tygart wrote:

> Some people are doing hyperconverged ceph, colocating qemu
> virtualization with ceph-osds. It is relevant for a decent subset of
> people here. Therefore knowledge of the degree of performance
> degradation is useful.
> 
It was my understanding that meltdown can not reach the host kernel space
from inside VMs, only other VMs would be at risk at the most.
Spectre is a different beast, but again AFAIK there aren't any kernel
patches for that yet.

See for example:
https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/176709/meltdown-and-virtual-machines

The chuckles you're hearing are me with nearly all of our compute nodes
still being AMD ones. ^o^

Christian
> --
> Adam
> 
> On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 11:38 AM,  <ceph@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I don't understand how all of this is related to Ceph
> >
> > Ceph runs on a dedicated hardware, there is nothing there except Ceph, and
> > the ceph daemons have already all power on ceph's data.
> > And there is no random-code execution allowed on this node.
> >
> > Thus, spectre & meltdown are meaning-less for Ceph's node, and mitigations
> > should be disabled
> >
> > Is this wrong ?
> >
> >
> > On 01/11/2018 06:26 PM, Dan van der Ster wrote:  
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Is anyone getting useful results with your benchmarking? I've prepared
> >> two test machines/pools and don't see any definitive slowdown with
> >> patched kernels from CentOS [1].
> >>
> >> I wonder if Ceph will be somewhat tolerant of these patches, similarly
> >> to what's described here:
> >> http://www.scylladb.com/2018/01/07/cost-of-avoiding-a-meltdown/
> >>
> >> Cheers, Dan
> >>
> >> [1] Ceph v12.2.2, FileStore OSDs, kernels 3.10.0-693.11.6.el7.x86_64
> >> vs the ancient 3.10.0-327.18.2.el7.x86_64
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