On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 7:22 AM, Andreas Calminder
<andreas.calminder@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> For the `simple` sub-command there is no prepare/activate, it is just
>> a way of taking over management of an already deployed OSD. For *new*
>> OSDs, yes, we are implying that we are going only with Logical Volumes
>> for data devices. It is a bit more flexible for Journals, block.db,
>> and block.wal as those
>> can be either logical volumes or GPT partitions (ceph-volume will not
>> create these for you).
>
> Ok, so if I understand this correctly, for future one-device-per-osd
> setups I would create a volume group per device before handing it over
> to ceph-volume, to get the "same" functionality as ceph-disk. I
> understand the flexibility aspect of this, my setup will have an extra
> step setting up lvm for my osd devices which is fine.
If you don't require any special configuration for your logical volume
and don't mind a naive LV handling, then ceph-volume can create
the logical volume for you from either a partition or a device (for
data), although it will still require a GPT partition for Journals,
block.wal, and block.db
For example:
ceph-volume lvm create --data /path/to/device
Would create a new volume group with the device and then produce a
single LV from it.
> Apologies if I
> missed the information, but is it possible to get command output as
> json, something like "ceph-disk list --format json" since it's quite
> helpful while setting up stuff through ansible
Yes, this is implemented in both "pretty" and JSON formats:
http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/ceph-volume/lvm/list/#ceph-volume-lvm-list
>
> Thanks,
> Andreas
>
> On 28 November 2017 at 12:47, Alfredo Deza <adeza@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 1:56 AM, Andreas Calminder
>> <andreas.calminder@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> Thanks for the heads-up. As someone who's currently maintaining a
>>> Jewel cluster and are in the process of setting up a shiny new
>>> Luminous cluster and writing Ansible roles in the process to make
>>> setup reproducible. I immediately proceeded to look into ceph-volume
>>> and I've some questions/concerns, mainly due to my own setup, which is
>>> one osd per device, simple.
>>>
>>> Running ceph-volume in Luminous 12.2.1 suggests there's only the lvm
>>> subcommand available and the man-page only covers lvm. The online
>>> documentation http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/ceph-volume/ lists
>>> simple however it's lacking some of the ceph-disk commands, like
>>> 'prepare' which seems crucial in the 'simple' scenario. Does the
>>> ceph-disk deprecation imply that lvm is mandatory for using devices
>>> with ceph or is just the documentation and tool features lagging
>>> behind, I.E the 'simple' parts will be added well in time for Mimic
>>> and during the Luminous lifecycle? Or am I missing something?
>>
>> In your case, all your existing OSDs will be able to be managed by
>> `ceph-volume` once scanned and the information persisted. So anything
>> from Jewel should still work. For 12.2.1 you are right, that command
>> is not yet available, it will be present in 12.2.2
>>
>> For the `simple` sub-command there is no prepare/activate, it is just
>> a way of taking over management of an already deployed OSD. For *new*
>> OSDs, yes, we are implying that we are going only with Logical Volumes
>> for data devices. It is a bit more flexible for Journals, block.db,
>> and block.wal as those
>> can be either logical volumes or GPT partitions (ceph-volume will not
>> create these for you).
>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Andreas
>>>
>>> On 27 November 2017 at 14:36, Alfredo Deza <adeza@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be
>>>> officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with
>>>> deprecation information has been added, which will try to raise
>>>> awareness.
>>>>
>>>> We are strongly suggesting using ceph-volume for new (and old) OSD
>>>> deployments. The only current exceptions to this are encrypted OSDs
>>>> and FreeBSD systems
>>>>
>>>> Encryption support is planned and will be coming soon to ceph-volume.
>>>>
>>>> A few items to consider:
>>>>
>>>> * ceph-disk is expected to be fully removed by the Mimic release
>>>> * Existing OSDs are supported by ceph-volume. They can be "taken over" [0]
>>>> * ceph-ansible already fully supports ceph-volume and will soon default to it
>>>> * ceph-deploy support is planned and should be fully implemented soon
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [0] http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/ceph-volume/simple/
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