On Tue, Nov 28, 2017 at 3:12 AM, Wido den Hollander <wido@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Op 27 november 2017 om 14:36 schreef Alfredo Deza <adeza@xxxxxxxxxx>: >> >> >> For the upcoming Luminous release (12.2.2), ceph-disk will be >> officially in 'deprecated' mode (bug fixes only). A large banner with >> deprecation information has been added, which will try to raise >> awareness. >> > > As much as I like ceph-volume and the work being done, is it really a good idea to use a minor release to deprecate a tool? > > Can't we just introduce ceph-volume and deprecate ceph-disk at the release of M? Because when you upgrade to 12.2.2 suddenly existing integrations will have deprecation warnings being thrown at them while they haven't upgraded to a new major version. ceph-volume has been present since the very first release of Luminous, the deprecation warning in ceph-disk is the only "new" thing introduced for 12.2.2. > > As ceph-deploy doesn't support ceph-disk either I don't think it's a good idea to deprecate it right now. ceph-deploy work is being done to support ceph-volume exclusively (ceph-disk support is dropped fully), which will mean a change in its API in a non-backwards compatible way. A major version change in ceph-deploy, documentation, and a bunch of documentation is being worked on to allow users to transition to it. > > How do others feel about this? > > Wido > >> We are strongly suggesting using ceph-volume for new (and old) OSD >> deployments. The only current exceptions to this are encrypted OSDs >> and FreeBSD systems >> >> Encryption support is planned and will be coming soon to ceph-volume. >> >> A few items to consider: >> >> * ceph-disk is expected to be fully removed by the Mimic release >> * Existing OSDs are supported by ceph-volume. They can be "taken over" [0] >> * ceph-ansible already fully supports ceph-volume and will soon default to it >> * ceph-deploy support is planned and should be fully implemented soon >> >> >> [0] http://docs.ceph.com/docs/master/ceph-volume/simple/ >> _______________________________________________ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com