On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:42 PM, Jiri Horky <jiri.horky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi list, > > we are thinking of building relatively big CEPH-based object storage for > storage of our sample files - we have about 700M files ranging from very > small (1-4KiB) files to pretty big ones (several GiB). Median of file > size is 64KiB. Since the required space is relatively large (1PiB of > usable storage), we are thinking of utilizing erasure coding for this > case. On the other hand, we need to achieve at least 1200MiB/s > throughput on reads. The working assumption is 4+2 EC (thus 50% overhead). > > Since the EC is per-object, the small objects will be stripped to even > smaller ones. With 4+2 EC, one needs (at least) 4 IOs to read a single > object in this scenario -> number of required IOPS when using EC is > relatively high. Some vendors (such as Hitachi, but I believe EMC as > well) do offline, predefined-chunk size EC instead. The idea is to first > write objects with replication factor of 3, wait for enough objects to > fill 4x 64MiB chunks and only do EC on that. This not only makes the EC > less computationally intensive, and repairs much faster, but it also > allows reading majority of the small objects directly by reading just > part of one of the chunk from it (assuming non degraded state) - one > chunk actually contains the whole object. How does the client know the name of the larger/bulk object, given the name of one of the small objects within it? Presumably, there is some index? > I wonder if something similar is already possible with CEPH and/or is > planned. For our use case of very small objects, it would mean near 3-4x > performance boosts in terms of required IOPS performance. > > Another option how to get out of this situation is to be able to specify > different storage pools/policies based on file size - i.e. to do 3x > replication of the very small files and only use EC for bigger files, > where the performance hit with 4x IOPS won't be that painful. But I I am > afraid this is not possible... Surely there is nothing stopping you writing your small objects in one pool and your large objects in another? Am I missing something? John > > Any other hint is sincerely welcome. > > Thank you > Jiri Horky > > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com