>From the looks of it, to bad the efforts could not be combined/coordinated, that seems to be an issue with many open source initiatives. -----Original Message----- From: mj [mailto:lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: zondag 24 september 2017 16:37 To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: librmb: Mail storage on RADOS with Dovecot Hi, I forwarded your announcement to the dovecot mailinglist. The following reply to it was posted by there by Timo Sirainen. I'm forwarding it here, as you might not be reading the dovecot mailinglist. Wido: > First, the Github link: > https://github.com/ceph-dovecot/dovecot-ceph-plugin > > I am not going to repeat everything which is on Github, put a short summary: > > - CephFS is used for storing Mailbox Indexes > - E-Mails are stored directly as RADOS objects > - It's a Dovecot plugin > > We would like everybody to test librmb and report back issues on Github so that further development can be done. > > It's not finalized yet, but all the help is welcome to make librmb the best solution for storing your e-mails on Ceph with Dovecot. Timo: It would be have been nicer if RADOS support was implemented as lib-fs driver, and the fs-API had been used all over the place elsewhere. So 1) LibRadosMailBox wouldn't have been relying so much on RADOS specifically and 2) fs-rados could have been used for other purposes. There are already fs-dict and dict-fs drivers, so the RADOS dict driver may not have been necessary to implement if fs-rados was implemented instead (although I didn't check it closely enough to verify). (We've had fs-rados on our TODO list for a while also.) BTW. We've also been planning on open sourcing some of the obox pieces, mainly fs-drivers (e.g. fs-s3). The obox format maybe too, but without the "metacache" piece. The current obox code is a bit too much married into the metacache though to make open sourcing it easy. (The metacache is about storing the Dovecot index files in object storage and efficiently caching them on local filesystem, which isn't planned to be open sourced in near future. That's pretty much the only difficult piece of the obox plugin, with Cassandra integration coming as a good second. I wish there had been a better/easier geo-distributed key-value database to use - tombstones are annoyingly troublesome.) And using rmb-mailbox format, my main worries would be: * doesn't store index files (= message flags) - not necessarily a problem, as long as you don't want geo-replication * index corruption means rebuilding them, which means rescanning list of mail files, which means rescanning the whole RADOS namespace, which practically means rescanning the RADOS pool. That most likely is a very very slow operation, which you want to avoid unless it's absolutely necessary. Need to be very careful to avoid that happening, and in general to avoid losing mails in case of crashes or other bugs. * I think copying/moving mails physically copies the full data on disk * Each IMAP/POP3/LMTP/etc process connects to RADOS separately from each others - some connection pooling would likely help here _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
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