hi Wade,
Yes firewalld is disabled on all nodes.
[ceph@ceph-mon1 ~]$ systemctl status firewalld
firewalld.service - firewalld - dynamic firewall daemon
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/firewalld.service; disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
thanks,
Maruthi.
Yes firewalld is disabled on all nodes.
[ceph@ceph-mon1 ~]$ systemctl status firewalld
firewalld.service - firewalld - dynamic firewall daemon
Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/firewalld.service; disabled)
Active: inactive (dead)
On Fri, Jan 1, 2016 at 7:46 AM, Wade Holler <wade.holler@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I assume you have tested with firewalld disabled ?
Best Regards
WadeOn Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 9:13 PM Maruthi Seshidhar <maruthi.seshidhar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:_______________________________________________Each of the nodes have 2 NICs.hi fellow users,I am setting up a ceph cluster with 3 monitors, 4 osds on CentOS 7.1
10.31.141.0/23 is the public n/w and 192.168.10.0/24 is the cluster n/w.Completed the "Preflight Checklist".
But in the "Storage Cluster Quick Start", while doing "ceph-deploy create-initial" I see error "Some monitors have still not reached quorum".[ceph@ceph-mgmt ceph-cluster]$ ceph-deploy --overwrite-conf mon create-initial
[ceph_deploy.conf][DEBUG ] found configuration file at: /home/ceph/.cephdeploy.conf
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] Invoked (1.5.30): /usr/bin/ceph-deploy --overwrite-conf mon create-initial
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] ceph-deploy options:
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] username : None
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] verbose : False
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] overwrite_conf : True
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] subcommand : create-initial
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] quiet : False
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] cd_conf : <ceph_deploy.conf.cephdeploy.Conf instance at 0x1fe7488>
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] cluster : ceph
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] func : <function mon at 0x1fd6e60>
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] ceph_conf : None
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] default_release : False
[ceph_deploy.cli][INFO ] keyrings : None
[ceph_deploy.mon][DEBUG ] Deploying mon, cluster ceph hosts ceph-mon1 ceph-mon2 ceph-mon3
[ceph_deploy.mon][DEBUG ] detecting platform for host ceph-mon1 ...
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] connection detected need for sudo
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] connected to host: ceph-mon1
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] detect platform information from remote host
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] detect machine type
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] find the location of an executable
[ceph_deploy.mon][INFO ] distro info: CentOS Linux 7.1.1503 Core
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] determining if provided host has same hostname in remote
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] get remote short hostname
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] deploying mon to ceph-mon1
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] get remote short hostname
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] remote hostname: ceph-mon1
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] write cluster configuration to /etc/ceph/{cluster}.conf
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] create the mon path if it does not exist
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] checking for done path: /var/lib/ceph/mon/ceph-ceph-mon1/done
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] create a done file to avoid re-doing the mon deployment
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] create the init path if it does not exist
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl enable ceph.target
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl enable ceph-mon@ceph-mon1
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl start ceph-mon@ceph-mon1
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon1.asok mon_status
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] ********************************************************************************
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] status for monitor: mon.ceph-mon1
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "election_epoch": 0,
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "extra_probe_peers": [
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.3:6789/0",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.4:6789/0",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.5:6789/0"
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] ],
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "monmap": {
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "created": "0.000000",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "epoch": 0,
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "fsid": "d6ca9ac6-bfb9-4464-a128-459068637924",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "modified": "0.000000",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "mons": [
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "addr": "10.31.141.76:6789/0",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon1",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "rank": 0
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "addr": "0.0.0.0:0/1",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon2",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "rank": 1
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "addr": "0.0.0.0:0/2",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon3",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "rank": 2
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] }
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] ]
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon1",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "outside_quorum": [
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "ceph-mon1"
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] ],
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "quorum": [],
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "rank": 0,
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "state": "probing",
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] "sync_provider": []
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] }
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] ********************************************************************************
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] monitor: mon.ceph-mon1 is running
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon1.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][DEBUG ] detecting platform for host ceph-mon2 ...
Warning: Permanently added the ECDSA host key for IP address '10.31.141.77' to the list of known hosts.
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] connection detected need for sudo
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] connected to host: ceph-mon2
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] detect platform information from remote host
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] detect machine type
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] find the location of an executable
[ceph_deploy.mon][INFO ] distro info: CentOS Linux 7.1.1503 Core
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] determining if provided host has same hostname in remote
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] get remote short hostname
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] deploying mon to ceph-mon2
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] get remote short hostname
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] remote hostname: ceph-mon2
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] write cluster configuration to /etc/ceph/{cluster}.conf
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] create the mon path if it does not exist
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] checking for done path: /var/lib/ceph/mon/ceph-ceph-mon2/done
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] create a done file to avoid re-doing the mon deployment
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] create the init path if it does not exist
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl enable ceph.target
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl enable ceph-mon@ceph-mon2
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl start ceph-mon@ceph-mon2
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon2.asok mon_status
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] ********************************************************************************
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] status for monitor: mon.ceph-mon2
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "election_epoch": 0,
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "extra_probe_peers": [
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.3:6789/0",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.4:6789/0",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.5:6789/0"
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] ],
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "monmap": {
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "created": "0.000000",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "epoch": 0,
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "fsid": "d6ca9ac6-bfb9-4464-a128-459068637924",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "modified": "0.000000",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "mons": [
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "addr": "10.31.141.77:6789/0",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon2",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "rank": 0
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "addr": "0.0.0.0:0/1",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon1",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "rank": 1
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "addr": "0.0.0.0:0/2",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon3",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "rank": 2
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] }
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] ]
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon2",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "outside_quorum": [
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "ceph-mon2"
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] ],
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "quorum": [],
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "rank": 0,
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "state": "probing",
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] "sync_provider": []
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] }
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] ********************************************************************************
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] monitor: mon.ceph-mon2 is running
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon2.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][DEBUG ] detecting platform for host ceph-mon3 ...
Warning: Permanently added the ECDSA host key for IP address '10.31.141.78' to the list of known hosts.
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] connection detected need for sudo
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] connected to host: ceph-mon3
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] detect platform information from remote host
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] detect machine type
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] find the location of an executable
[ceph_deploy.mon][INFO ] distro info: CentOS Linux 7.1.1503 Core
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] determining if provided host has same hostname in remote
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] get remote short hostname
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] deploying mon to ceph-mon3
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] get remote short hostname
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] remote hostname: ceph-mon3
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] write cluster configuration to /etc/ceph/{cluster}.conf
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] create the mon path if it does not exist
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] checking for done path: /var/lib/ceph/mon/ceph-ceph-mon3/done
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] create a done file to avoid re-doing the mon deployment
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] create the init path if it does not exist
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl enable ceph.target
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl enable ceph-mon@ceph-mon3
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo systemctl start ceph-mon@ceph-mon3
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon3.asok mon_status
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] ********************************************************************************
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] status for monitor: mon.ceph-mon3
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "election_epoch": 0,
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "extra_probe_peers": [
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.3:6789/0",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.4:6789/0",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "192.168.10.5:6789/0"
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] ],
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "monmap": {
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "created": "0.000000",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "epoch": 0,
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "fsid": "d6ca9ac6-bfb9-4464-a128-459068637924",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "modified": "0.000000",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "mons": [
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "addr": "10.31.141.78:6789/0",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon3",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "rank": 0
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "addr": "0.0.0.0:0/1",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon1",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "rank": 1
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] {
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "addr": "0.0.0.0:0/2",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon2",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "rank": 2
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] }
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] ]
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] },
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "name": "ceph-mon3",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "outside_quorum": [
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "ceph-mon3"
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] ],
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "quorum": [],
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "rank": 0,
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "state": "probing",
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] "sync_provider": []
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] }
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] ********************************************************************************
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] monitor: mon.ceph-mon3 is running
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon3.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][INFO ] processing monitor mon.ceph-mon1
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] connection detected need for sudo
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] connected to host: ceph-mon1
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] detect platform information from remote host
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] detect machine type
[ceph-mon1][DEBUG ] find the location of an executable
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon1.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon1 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 5
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 5 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon1.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon1 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 4
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 10 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon1.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon1 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 3
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 10 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon1.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon1 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 2
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 15 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon1][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon1.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon1 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 1
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 20 seconds before retrying
[ceph_deploy.mon][INFO ] processing monitor mon.ceph-mon2
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] connection detected need for sudo
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] connected to host: ceph-mon2
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] detect platform information from remote host
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] detect machine type
[ceph-mon2][DEBUG ] find the location of an executable
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon2.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon2 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 5
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 5 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon2.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon2 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 4
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 10 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon2.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon2 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 3
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 10 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon2.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon2 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 2
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 15 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon2][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon2.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon2 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 1
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 20 seconds before retrying
[ceph_deploy.mon][INFO ] processing monitor mon.ceph-mon3
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] connection detected need for sudo
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] connected to host: ceph-mon3
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] detect platform information from remote host
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] detect machine type
[ceph-mon3][DEBUG ] find the location of an executable
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon3.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon3 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 5
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 5 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon3.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon3 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 4
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 10 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon3.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon3 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 3
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 10 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon3.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon3 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 2
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 15 seconds before retrying
[ceph-mon3][INFO ] Running command: sudo ceph --cluster=ceph --admin-daemon /var/run/ceph/ceph-mon.ceph-mon3.asok mon_status
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] mon.ceph-mon3 monitor is not yet in quorum, tries left: 1
[ceph_deploy.mon][WARNIN] waiting 20 seconds before retrying
[ceph_deploy.mon][ERROR ] Some monitors have still not reached quorum:
[ceph_deploy.mon][ERROR ] ceph-mon2
[ceph_deploy.mon][ERROR ] ceph-mon3
[ceph_deploy.mon][ERROR ] ceph-mon1I tried enlisting 192168.10.x IPs for mon_host in the ceph.conf file, but still monitors are not joining the quorum.On all nodes the /etc/hosts file is
$ cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4
::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6
10.31.141.75 ceph-mgmt
10.31.141.76 ceph-mon1
10.31.141.77 ceph-mon2
10.31.141.78 ceph-mon3
#192.168.10.2 ceph-mgmt
#192.168.10.3 ceph-mon1
#192.168.10.4 ceph-mon2
#192.168.10.5 ceph-mon3
192.168.10.6 ceph-node1
192.168.10.7 ceph-node2
192.168.10.8 ceph-node3
192.168.10.9 ceph-node4Thanks,
[ceph@ceph-mgmt ceph-cluster]$ cat ceph.conf
[global]
fsid = 5448338e-aa85-4251-9e27-e38f35bd4b34
mon_initial_members = ceph-mon1, ceph-mon2, ceph-mon3
#mon_host = 192.168.10.3,192.168.10.4,192.168.10.5
mon_host = 10.31.141.76, 10.31.141.77, 10.31.141.78
auth_cluster_required = none
auth_service_required = none
auth_client_required = none
#auth_cluster_required = cephx
#auth_service_required = cephx
#auth_client_required = cephx
filestore_xattr_use_omap = true
public network = 10.31.141.0/23
cluster network = 192.168.10.0/24Maruthi Seshidhar
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