I agree. For the existing stable series the distribution support should be continued. But for new releases (infernalis, jewel...) I see no problem dropping the older versions of the distributions. greetings Johannes > Am 30.07.2015 um 16:39 schrieb Jon Meacham <jomeacha@xxxxxxxxx>: > > If hammer and firefly bugfix releases will still be packaged for these distros, I don't see a problem with this. Anyone who is operating an existing LTS deployment on CentOS 6, etc. will continue to receive fixes for said LTS release. > > Jon > > From: ceph-users on behalf of Jan “Zviratko” Schermer > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2015 at 8:29 AM > To: Sage Weil > Cc: ceph-devel, "ceph-users@xxxxxxxx" > Subject: Re: dropping old distros: el6, precise 12.04, debian wheezy? > > I understand your reasons, but dropping support for LTS release like this > is not right. > > You should lege artis support every distribution the LTS release could have > ever been installed on - that’s what the LTS label is for and what we rely on > once we build a project on top of it > > CentOS 6 in particular is still very widely used and even installed, enterprise > apps rely on it to this day. Someone out there is surely maintaining their LTS > Ceph release on this distro and not having tested packages will hurt badly. > We don’t want out project managers selecting EMC SAN over CEPH SDS > because of such uncertainty, and you should benchmark yourself to those > vendors, maybe... > > Every developer loves dropping support and concentrating on the bleeding > edge interesting stuff but that’s not how it should work. > > Just my 2 cents... > > Jan > >> On 30 Jul 2015, at 15:54, Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> As time marches on it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain proper >> builds and packages for older distros. For example, as we make the >> systemd transition, maintaining the kludgey sysvinit and udev support for >> centos6/rhel6 is a pain in the butt and eats up time and energy to >> maintain and test that we could be spending doing more useful work. >> >> "Dropping" them would mean: >> >> - Ongoing development on master (and future versions like infernalis and >> jewel) would not be tested on these distros. >> >> - We would stop building upstream release packages on ceph.com for new >> releases. >> >> - We would probably continue building hammer and firefly packages for >> future bugfix point releases. >> >> - The downstream distros would probably continue to package them, but the >> burden would be on them. For example, if Ubuntu wanted to ship Jewel on >> precise 12.04, they could, but they'd probably need to futz with the >> packaging and/or build environment to make it work. >> >> So... given that, I'd like to gauge user interest in these old distros. >> Specifically, >> >> CentOS6 / RHEL6 >> Ubuntu precise 12.04 >> Debian wheezy >> >> Would anyone miss them? >> >> In particular, dropping these three would mean we could drop sysvinit >> entirely and focus on systemd (and continue maintaining the existing >> upstart files for just a bit longer). That would be a relief. (The >> sysvinit files wouldn't go away in the source tree, but we wouldn't worry >> about packaging and testing them properly.) >> >> Thanks! >> sage >> _______________________________________________ >> ceph-users mailing list >> ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
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