I'm able to reach around 20000-25000iops with 4k block with s3500 (with o_dsync) (so yes, around 80-100MB/S). I'l bench new s3610 soon to compare. ----- Mail original ----- De: "Anthony Levesque" <alevesque@xxxxxxxxxx> À: "Christian Balzer" <chibi@xxxxxxx> Cc: "ceph-users" <ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Envoyé: Vendredi 24 Avril 2015 22:00:44 Objet: Re: Possible improvements for a slow write speed (excluding independent SSD journals) Hi Christian, We tested some DC S3500 300GB using dd if=randfile of=/dev/sda bs=4k count=100000 oflag=direct,dsync we got 96 MB/s which is far from the 315 MB/s from the website. Can I ask you or anyone on the mailing list how you are testing the write speed for journals? Thanks --- Anthony Lévesque GloboTech Communications Phone: 1-514-907-0050 x 208 Toll Free: 1-(888)-GTCOMM1 x 208 Phone Urgency: 1-(514) 907-0047 1-(866)-500-1555 Fax: 1-(514)-907-0750 alevesque@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.gtcomm.net On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Christian Balzer < chibi@xxxxxxx > wrote: Hello, On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:40:38 -0400 Anthony Levesque wrote: BQ_BEGIN To update you on the current test in our lab: 1.We tested the Samsung OSD in Recovery mode and the speed was able to maxout 2x 10GbE port(transferring data at 2200+ MB/s during recovery). So for normal write operation without O_DSYNC writes Samsung drives seem ok. 2.We then tested a couple of different model of SSD we had in stock with the following command: dd if=randfile of=/dev/sda bs=4k count=100000 oflag=direct,dsync This was from a blog written by Sebastien Han and I think should be able to show how the drives would perform in O_DSYNC writes. For people interested in some result of what we tested here they are: Intel DC S3500 120GB = 114 MB/s Samsung Pro 128GB = 2.4 MB/s WD Black 1TB (HDD) = 409 KB/s Intel 330 120GB = 105 MB/s Intel 520 120GB = 9.4 MB/s Intel 335 80GB = 9.4 MB/s Samsung EVO 1TB = 2.5 MB/s Intel 320 120GB = 78 MB/s OCZ Revo Drive 240GB = 60.8 MB/s 4x Samsung EVO 1TB LSI RAID0 HW + BBU = 28.4 MB/s No real surprises here, but a nice summary nonetheless. You _really_ want to avoid consumer SSDs for journals and have a good idea on how much data you'll write per day and how long you expect your SSDs to last (the TBW/$ ratio). BQ_BEGIN Please let us know if the command we ran was not optimal to test O_DSYNC writes We order larger drive from Intel DC series to see if we could get more than 200 MB/s per SSD. We will keep you posted on tests if that interested you guys. We dint test multiple parallel test yet (to simulate multiple journal on one SSD). BQ_END You can totally trust the numbers on Intel's site: http://ark.intel.com/products/family/83425/Data-Center-SSDs The S3500s are by far the slowest and have the lowest endurance. Again, depending on your expected write level the S3610 or S3700 models are going to be a better fit regarding price/performance. Especially when you consider that loosing a journal SSD will result in several dead OSDs. BQ_BEGIN 3.We remove the Journal from all Samsung OSD and put 2x Intel 330 120GB on all 6 Node to test. The overall speed we were getting from the rados bench went from 1000 MB/s(approx.) to 450 MB/s which might only be because the intel cannot do too much in term of journaling (was tested at around 100 MB/s). It will be interesting to test with bigger Intel DC S3500 drives(and more journals) per node to see if I can back up to 1000MB/s or even surpass it. We also wanted to test if the CPU could be a huge bottle neck so we swap the Dual E5-2620v2 from node #6 and replace them with Dual E5-2609v2(Which are much smaller in core and speed) and the 450 MB/s we got from he rados bench went even lower to 180 MB/s. BQ_END You really don't have to swap CPUs around, monitor things with atop or other tools to see where your bottlenecks are. BQ_BEGIN So Im wondering if the 1000MB/s we got when the Journal was shared on the OSD SSD was not limited by the CPUs (even though the samsung are not good for journals on the long run) and not just by the fact Samsung SSD are bad in O_DSYNC writes(or maybe both). It is probable that 16 SSD OSD per node in a full SSD cluster is too much and the major bottleneck will be from the CPU. BQ_END That's what I kept saying. ^.^ BQ_BEGIN 4.Im wondering if we find good SSD for the journal and keep the samsung for normal writes and read(We can saturate 20GbE easy with read benchmark. We will test 40GbE soon) if the cluster will keep healthy since Samsung seem to get burnt from O_DSYNC writes. BQ_END They will get burned, as in have their cells worn out by any and all writes. BQ_BEGIN 5.In term of HBA controller, did you guys have made any test for a full SSD cluster or even just for SSD Journal. BQ_END If you have separate journals and OSDs, it often makes good sense to have them on separate controllers as well. It all depends on density of your setup and capabilities of the controllers. LSI HBAs in IT mode are a known and working entity. Christian -- Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer chibi@xxxxxxx Global OnLine Japan/Fusion Communications http://www.gol.com/ BQ_END _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com