Re: Possible improvements for a slow write speed (excluding independent SSD journals)

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I'm able to reach around 20000-25000iops with 4k block with s3500 (with o_dsync) (so yes, around 80-100MB/S).

I'l bench new s3610 soon to compare.


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De: "Anthony Levesque" <alevesque@xxxxxxxxxx>
À: "Christian Balzer" <chibi@xxxxxxx>
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Envoyé: Vendredi 24 Avril 2015 22:00:44
Objet: Re:  Possible improvements for a slow write speed	(excluding independent SSD journals)

Hi Christian, 

We tested some DC S3500 300GB using dd if=randfile of=/dev/sda bs=4k count=100000 oflag=direct,dsync 

we got 96 MB/s which is far from the 315 MB/s from the website. 

Can I ask you or anyone on the mailing list how you are testing the write speed for journals? 

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On Apr 23, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Christian Balzer < chibi@xxxxxxx > wrote: 


Hello, 

On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:40:38 -0400 Anthony Levesque wrote: 


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To update you on the current test in our lab: 

1.We tested the Samsung OSD in Recovery mode and the speed was able to 
maxout 2x 10GbE port(transferring data at 2200+ MB/s during recovery). 
So for normal write operation without O_DSYNC writes Samsung drives seem 
ok. 

2.We then tested a couple of different model of SSD we had in stock with 
the following command: 

dd if=randfile of=/dev/sda bs=4k count=100000 oflag=direct,dsync 

This was from a blog written by Sebastien Han and I think should be able 
to show how the drives would perform in O_DSYNC writes. For people 
interested in some result of what we tested here they are: 

Intel DC S3500 120GB = 114 MB/s 
Samsung Pro 128GB = 2.4 MB/s 
WD Black 1TB (HDD) = 409 KB/s 
Intel 330 120GB = 105 MB/s 
Intel 520 120GB = 9.4 MB/s 
Intel 335 80GB = 9.4 MB/s 
Samsung EVO 1TB = 2.5 MB/s 
Intel 320 120GB = 78 MB/s 
OCZ Revo Drive 240GB = 60.8 MB/s 
4x Samsung EVO 1TB LSI RAID0 HW + BBU = 28.4 MB/s 



No real surprises here, but a nice summary nonetheless. 

You _really_ want to avoid consumer SSDs for journals and have a good idea 
on how much data you'll write per day and how long you expect your SSDs to 
last (the TBW/$ ratio). 


BQ_BEGIN
Please let us know if the command we ran was not optimal to test O_DSYNC 
writes 

We order larger drive from Intel DC series to see if we could get more 
than 200 MB/s per SSD. We will keep you posted on tests if that 
interested you guys. We dint test multiple parallel test yet (to 
simulate multiple journal on one SSD). 


BQ_END
You can totally trust the numbers on Intel's site: 
http://ark.intel.com/products/family/83425/Data-Center-SSDs 

The S3500s are by far the slowest and have the lowest endurance. 
Again, depending on your expected write level the S3610 or S3700 models 
are going to be a better fit regarding price/performance. 
Especially when you consider that loosing a journal SSD will result in 
several dead OSDs. 


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3.We remove the Journal from all Samsung OSD and put 2x Intel 330 120GB 
on all 6 Node to test. The overall speed we were getting from the rados 
bench went from 1000 MB/s(approx.) to 450 MB/s which might only be 
because the intel cannot do too much in term of journaling (was tested 
at around 100 MB/s). It will be interesting to test with bigger Intel 
DC S3500 drives(and more journals) per node to see if I can back up to 
1000MB/s or even surpass it. 

We also wanted to test if the CPU could be a huge bottle neck so we swap 
the Dual E5-2620v2 from node #6 and replace them with Dual 
E5-2609v2(Which are much smaller in core and speed) and the 450 MB/s we 
got from he rados bench went even lower to 180 MB/s. 


BQ_END
You really don't have to swap CPUs around, monitor things with atop or 
other tools to see where your bottlenecks are. 


BQ_BEGIN
So Im wondering if the 1000MB/s we got when the Journal was shared on 
the OSD SSD was not limited by the CPUs (even though the samsung are not 
good for journals on the long run) and not just by the fact Samsung SSD 
are bad in O_DSYNC writes(or maybe both). It is probable that 16 SSD 
OSD per node in a full SSD cluster is too much and the major bottleneck 
will be from the CPU. 


BQ_END
That's what I kept saying. ^.^ 


BQ_BEGIN
4.Im wondering if we find good SSD for the journal and keep the samsung 
for normal writes and read(We can saturate 20GbE easy with read 
benchmark. We will test 40GbE soon) if the cluster will keep healthy 
since Samsung seem to get burnt from O_DSYNC writes. 


BQ_END
They will get burned, as in have their cells worn out by any and all 
writes. 


BQ_BEGIN
5.In term of HBA controller, did you guys have made any test for a full 
SSD cluster or even just for SSD Journal. 


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If you have separate journals and OSDs, it often makes good sense to have 
them on separate controllers as well. 
It all depends on density of your setup and capabilities of the 
controllers. 
LSI HBAs in IT mode are a known and working entity. 

Christian 
-- 
Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer 
chibi@xxxxxxx Global OnLine Japan/Fusion Communications 
http://www.gol.com/ 

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