Hi Frederick,
Need some information here.
1. Just to clarify, you are saying it is happening g in 0.87.1 and not in Firefly ?
2. Is it happening after some hours of run or just right away ?
3. Please provide ‘perf top’ output of all the OSD nodes.
4. Provide the ceph.conf file from your OSD node as well.
Thanks & Regards
Somnath
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Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 2:15 AM
To: Craig Lewis
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Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Uneven CPU usage on OSD nodes
Hi Craig,
An uneven primaries distribution was indeed my first thought.
I should have been more explicit on the percentages of the histograms I gave, lets see them in detail in a more comprehensive way.
On a 27938 bench objects seen by osdmap, the hosts are distributed like that :
20904 host1
21210 host2
20835 host3
20709 host3
That's the number of time they appear (as primary or secondary or tertiary).
The distribution is pretty linear, as we don't have more than 0.5% of total objects difference between the most and the less used host.
If we now considere the primary host distribution, here is what we have :
7207 host1
6960 host2
6814 host3
6957 host3
That's the number of time each host appears as primary.
Once again, the distribution is correct with less than 1.5% of the total entries between the most and the less used host as primary.
I must add that such a distribution is of course observed for the secondary and the tertiary copy.
I think we have enough samples to confirms the correct distribution of the crush function.
Each host having 25% of chance to be primary, this shouldn't be the reason why we observe a higher CPU load. There's must something else....
I must add we run 0.87.1 Giant.
Go to a firefly release is an option as the phenomena is not currently observed on comparable hardware platforms running 0.80.x
About the memory on hosts, 32GB is just a beginning for the tests. We'll add more later.
Frederic
Craig Lewis <clewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit le 20/03/15 23:19 :
I would say you're a little light on RAM. With 4TB disks 70% full, I've seen some ceph-osd processes using 3.5GB of RAM during recovery. You'll be fine during normal operation, but you might run into issues at the worst possible time.
I have 8 OSDs per node, and 32G of RAM. I've had ceph-osd processes start swapping, and that's a great way to get them kicked out for being unresponsive.
I'm not a dev, but I can make some wild and uninformed guesses :-) . The primary OSD uses more CPU than the replicas, and I suspect that you have more primaries on the hot nodes.
Since you're testing, try repeating the test on 3 OSD nodes instead of 4. If you don't want to run that test, you can generate a histogram from ceph pg dump data, and see if there are more primary osds (the first one in the acting array)
on the hot nodes.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 7:18 AM,
fred@xxxxxxxxxx <fred@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi to the ceph-users list !
We're setting up a new Ceph infrastructure :
- 1 MDS admin node
- 4 OSD storage nodes (60 OSDs)
each of them running a monitor
- 1 client
Each 32GB RAM/16 cores OSD node supports 15 x 4TB SAS OSDs (XFS) and 1 SSD with 5GB journal partitions, all in JBOD attachement.
Every node has 2x10Gb LACP attachement.
The OSD nodes are freshly installed with puppet then from the admin node
Default OSD weight in the OSD tree
1 test pool with 4096 PGs
During setup phase, we're trying to qualify the performance characteristics of our setup.
Rados benchmark are done from a client with these commandes :
rados -p pool -b 4194304 bench 60 write -t 32 --no-cleanup
rados -p pool -b 4194304 bench 60 seq -t 32 --no-cleanup
Each time we observed a recurring phenomena : 2 of the 4 OSD nodes have twice the CPU load :
http://www.4shared.com/photo/Ua0umPVbba/UnevenLoad.html
(What to look at is the real-time %CPU and the cumulated CPU time per ceph-osd process)
And after a fresh complete reinstall to be sure, this twice-as-high CPU load is observed but not on the same 2 nodes :
http://www.4shared.com/photo/2AJfd1B_ba/UnevenLoad-v2.html
Nothing obvious about the installation seems able to explain that.
The crush distribution function doesn't have more than 4.5% inequality between the 4 OSD nodes for the primary OSDs of the objects, and less than 3% between the hosts if we considere the whole acting sets for the objects used during the benchmark. And the differences
are not accordingly comparable to the CPU loads. So the cause has to be elsewhere.
I cannot be sure it has no impact on performance. Even if we have enough CPU cores headroom, logic would say it has to have some consequences on delays and also on performances .
Would someone have any idea, or reproduce the test on its setup to see if this is a common comportment ?
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