Re: ceph Performance with SSD journal

[Andrei Mikhailovsky <andrei@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Not sure what exact brands of samsung you have, but i've got the 840 Pro and it sucks big time. its is slow and unreliable and halts to a stand still over a period of time due to the trimming issue. Even after i've left unreserved like 50% of the disk.

Unlike the Intel disks (even the consumer brand like 520 and 530 are just way better.

I will stay away from any samsung drives in the future.

Andrei

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From: "Sumit Gaur" <sumitkgaur@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Irek Fasikhov" <malmyzh@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, 13 February, 2015 1:09:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] ceph Performance with SSD journal

Hi Irek,

I am using v0.80.5 Firefly

-sumit

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Irek Fasikhov <malmyzh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi.

What version?

2015-02-13 6:04 GMT+03:00 Sumit Gaur <sumitkgaur@xxxxxxxxx>:

Hi Chir, 

Please fidn my answer below in blue

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Chris Hoy Poy <chris@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Sumit,

A couple questions:

What brand/model SSD?

samsung 480G SSD(PM853T) having random write 90K IOPS (4K, 368MBps)

What brand/model HDD?

64GB memory, 300GB SAS HDD (seagate), 10Gb nic 

Also how they are connected to controller/motherboard? Are they sharing a bus (ie SATA expander)? 

no , They are connected with local Bus not the SATA expander.

 

RAM?

64GB 

Also look at the output of  "iostat -x" or similiar, are the SSDs hitting 100% utilisation?

No, SSD was hitting 2000 iops only.  

I suspect that the 5:1 ratio of HDDs to SDDs is not ideal, you now have 5x the write IO trying to fit into a single SSD.

 I have not seen any documented reference to calculate the ratio. Could you suggest one. Here I want to mention that results for 1024K write improve a lot. Problem is with 1024K read and 4k write .

SSD journal 810 IOPS and 810MBps

HDD journal 620 IOPS and 620 MBps

 

I'll take a punt on it being a SATA connected SSD (most common), 5x ~130 megabytes/second gets very close to most SATA bus limits. If its a shared BUS, you possibly hit that limit even earlier (since all that data is now being written twice out over the bus).

cheers;

\Chris

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From: "Sumit Gaur" <sumitkgaur@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, 12 February, 2015 9:23:35 AM
Subject: ceph Performance with SSD journal

Hi Ceph-Experts,

Have a small ceph architecture related question  

As blogs and documents suggest that ceph perform much better if we use journal on SSD.

I have made the ceph cluster with 30 HDD + 6 SSD for 6 OSD nodes. 5 HDD + 1 SSD on each node and each SSD have 5 partition for journaling 5 OSDs on the node. 

Now I ran similar test as I ran for all HDD setup.

What I saw below two reading goes in wrong direction as expected

1) 4K write IOPS are less for SSD setup, though not major difference but less.

2) 1024K Read IOPS are  less  for SSD setup than HDD setup.

On the other hand 4K read and 1024K write both have much better numbers for SSD setup.

Let me know if I am missing some obvious concept.

Thanks

sumit 

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