Re: Network hardware recommendations

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2014 00:45:06 +0000 Scott Laird wrote:

> IIRC, one thing to look out for is that there are two ways to do IP over
> Infiniband.  You can either do IP over Infiniband directly (IPoIB), or
> encapsulate Ethernet in Infiniband (EoIB), and then do IP over the fake
> Ethernet network.
> 
> IPoIB is more common, but I'd assume that IB<->Ethernet bridges really
> only bridge EoIB.
> 
Most of them do indeed, alas the 4036E supposedly has a FPGA based IPoIB
to Ethernet gateway. 

Probably another reason to build your own, aside from the price tag. ^o^

Christian
> On Tue Oct 07 2014 at 5:34:57 PM Christian Balzer <chibi@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 07 Oct 2014 20:40:31 +0000 Scott Laird wrote:
> >
> > > I've done this two ways in the past.  Either I'll give each machine
> > > an Infiniband network link and a 1000baseT link and use the
> > > Infiniband one as the private network for Ceph, or I'll throw an
> > > Infiniband card into a PC and run something like Vyatta/VyOS on it
> > > and make it a router, so IP traffic can get out of the IB network.
> > > Of course, those have both been for test labs.  YMMV.
> > >
> >
> > That.
> >
> > Of course in a production environment you would want something with 2
> > routers in a failover configuration.
> > And there are switches/gateways that combine IB and Ethernet, but they
> > tend to be not so cheap. ^^
> >
> > More below.
> >
> > > On Tue Oct 07 2014 at 11:05:23 AM Massimiliano Cuttini
> > > <max@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > >  Hi Christian,
> > > >
> > > >  When you say "10 gig infiniband", do you mean QDRx4 Infiniband
> > > > (usually flogged as 40Gb/s even though it is 32Gb/s, but who's
> > > > counting), which tends to be the same basic hardware as the 10Gb/s
> > > > Ethernet offerings from Mellanox?
> > > >
> > > > A brand new 18 port switch of that caliber will only cost about
> > > > 180$ per port, too.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I investigate about infiniband but i didn't found affordable
> > > > prices at all.
> >
> > Then you're doing it wrong or comparing apples to oranges (you of
> > course need to compare IB switches to similar 10GbE ones).
> > And the prices of HCA (aka network cards in the servers) and cabling.
> >
> > > > Moreover how do you connect your *l**egacy node servers* to your
> > > > *brand new storages* if you have Infiniband only on storages &
> > > > switches? Is there any mixed switch that allow you both to connect
> > > > with Infiniband and Ethernet?
> > > >
> > > > If there is, please send specs because i cannot find just by
> > > > google it.
> > > >
> > The moment you type in "infiniband et" google will already predict
> > amongst other pertinent things "infiniband ethernet gateway" and
> > "infiniband ethernet bridge".
> > But even "infiniband ethernet switch" has a link telling you pretty
> > much what was said here now at the 6th position:
> > http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/44997-42-connect-
> > infiniband-switch-ethernet
> >
> > Christian
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Max
> > > >
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