cache pools on hypervisor servers

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Hi guys, 

Could someone from the ceph team please comment on running osd cache pool on the hypervisors? Is this a good idea, or will it create a lot of performance issues? 

Anyone in the ceph community that has done this? Any results to share? 

Many thanks 

Andrei 

----- Original Message -----

> From: "Robert van Leeuwen" <Robert.vanLeeuwen at spilgames.com>
> To: "Andrei Mikhailovsky" <andrei at arhont.com>
> Cc: ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> Sent: Thursday, 14 August, 2014 9:31:24 AM
> Subject: RE: cache pools on hypervisor servers

> > Personally I am not worried too much about the hypervisor - hypervisor
> > traffic as I am using a dedicated infiniband network for storage.
> > It is not used for the guest to guest or the internet traffic or anything
> > else. I would like to decrease or at least smooth out the traffic peaks
> > between the hypervisors and the SAS/SATA osd storage servers.
> > I guess the ssd cache pool would enable me to do that as the eviction rate
> > should be more structured compared to the random io writes that guest vms
> > generate.
> Sounds reasonable

> >>I'm very interested in the effect of caching pools in combination with
> >>running VMs on them so I'd be happy to hear what you find ;)
> > I will give it a try and share back the results when we get the ssd kit.
> Excellent, looking forward to it.

> >> As a side note: Running OSDs on hypervisors would not be my preferred
> >> choice since hypervisor load might impact Ceph performance.
> > Do you think it is not a good idea even if you have a lot of cores on the
> > hypervisors?
> > Like 24 or 32 per host server?
> > According to my monitoring, our osd servers are not that stressed and
> > generally have over 50% of free cpu power.

> The number of cores do not really matter if they are all busy ;)
> I honestly do not know how Ceph behaves when it is CPU starved but I guess it
> might not be pretty.
> Since your whole environment will be crumbling down if your storage becomes
> unavailable it is not a risk I would take lightly.

> Cheers,
> Robert van Leeuwen
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