scrub error on firefly

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Greetings,

I'm using xfs.

Also, when, in a previous email, you asked if I could send the object, do
you mean the files from each server named something like
this: ./3.c6_head/DIR_6/DIR_C/DIR_5/rb.0.b0ce3.238e1f29.00000000000b__head_34DC35C6__3
?


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Samuel Just <sam.just at inktank.com> wrote:

> Also, what filesystem are you using?
> -Sam
>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Sage Weil <sweil at redhat.com> wrote:
> > One other thing we might also try is catching this earlier (on first read
> > of corrupt data) instead of waiting for scrub.  If you are not super
> > performance sensitive, you can add
> >
> >  filestore sloppy crc = true
> >  filestore sloppy crc block size = 524288
> >
> > That will track and verify CRCs on any large (>512k) writes.  Smaller
> > block sizes will give more precision and more checks, but will generate
> > larger xattrs and have a bigger impact on performance...
> >
> > sage
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 11 Jul 2014, Samuel Just wrote:
> >
> >> When you get the next inconsistency, can you copy the actual objects
> >> from the osd store trees and get them to us?  That might provide a
> >> clue.
> >> -Sam
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Randy Smith <rbsmith at adams.edu> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Samuel Just <sam.just at inktank.com>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> It could be an indication of a problem on osd 5, but the timing is
> >> >> worrying.  Can you attach your ceph.conf?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Attached.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Have there been any osds
> >> >> going down, new osds added, anything to cause recovery?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I upgraded to firefly last week. As part of the upgrade I, obviously,
> had to
> >> > restart every osd. Also, I attempted to switch to the optimal
> tunables but
> >> > doing so degraded 27% of my cluster and made most of my VMs
> unresponsive. I
> >> > switched back to the legacy tunables and everything was happy again.
> Both of
> >> > those operations, of course, caused recoveries. I have made no
> changes since
> >> > then.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>  Anything in
> >> >> dmesg to indicate an fs problem?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Nothing. The system went inconsistent again this morning, again on
> the same
> >> > rbd but different osds this time.
> >> >
> >> > 2014-07-11 05:48:12.857657 osd.1 192.168.253.77:6801/12608 904 :
> [ERR] 3.76
> >> > shard 1: soid 1280076/rb.0.b0ce3.238e1f29.00000000025c/head//3 digest
> >> > 2198242284 != known digest 3879754377
> >> > 2014-07-11 05:49:29.020024 osd.1 192.168.253.77:6801/12608 905 :
> [ERR] 3.76
> >> > deep-scrub 0 missing, 1 inconsistent objects
> >> > 2014-07-11 05:49:29.020029 osd.1 192.168.253.77:6801/12608 906 :
> [ERR] 3.76
> >> > deep-scrub 1 errors
> >> >
> >> > $ ceph health detail
> >> > HEALTH_ERR 1 pgs inconsistent; 1 scrub errors
> >> > pg 3.76 is active+clean+inconsistent, acting [1,2]
> >> > 1 scrub errors
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>  Have you recently changed any
> >> >> settings?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > I upgraded from bobtail to dumpling to firefly.
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> -Sam
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Randy Smith <rbsmith at adams.edu>
> wrote:
> >> >> > Greetings,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Just a follow up on my original issue. =ceph pg repair ...= fixed
> the
> >> >> > problem. However, today I got another inconsistent pg. It's
> interesting
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > me that this second error is in the same rbd image and appears to
> be
> >> >> > "close"
> >> >> > to the previously inconsistent pg. (Even more fun, osd.5 was the
> >> >> > secondary
> >> >> > in the first error and is the primary here though the other osd is
> >> >> > different.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Is this indicative of a problem on osd.5 or perhaps a clue into
> what's
> >> >> > causing firefly to be so inconsistent?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The relevant log entries are below.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2014-07-07 18:50:48.646407 osd.2 192.168.253.70:6801/56987 163 :
> [ERR]
> >> >> > 3.c6
> >> >> > shard 2: soid 34dc35c6/rb.0.b0ce3.238e1f29.00000000000b/head//3
> digest
> >> >> > 2256074002 != known digest 3998068918
> >> >> > 2014-07-07 18:51:36.936076 osd.2 192.168.253.70:6801/56987 164 :
> [ERR]
> >> >> > 3.c6
> >> >> > deep-scrub 0 missing, 1 inconsistent objects
> >> >> > 2014-07-07 18:51:36.936082 osd.2 192.168.253.70:6801/56987 165 :
> [ERR]
> >> >> > 3.c6
> >> >> > deep-scrub 1 errors
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2014-07-10 15:38:53.990328 osd.5 192.168.253.81:6800/10013 257 :
> [ERR]
> >> >> > 3.41
> >> >> > shard 1: soid e183cc41/rb.0.b0ce3.238e1f29.00000000024c/head//3
> digest
> >> >> > 3224286363 != known digest 3409342281
> >> >> > 2014-07-10 15:39:11.701276 osd.5 192.168.253.81:6800/10013 258 :
> [ERR]
> >> >> > 3.41
> >> >> > deep-scrub 0 missing, 1 inconsistent objects
> >> >> > 2014-07-10 15:39:11.701281 osd.5 192.168.253.81:6800/10013 259 :
> [ERR]
> >> >> > 3.41
> >> >> > deep-scrub 1 errors
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Chahal, Sudip <
> sudip.chahal at intel.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks - so it appears that the advantage of the 3rd replica
> (relative
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> 2 replicas) has to do much more with recovering from two
> concurrent OSD
> >> >> >> failures than with inconsistencies found during deep scrub -
> would you
> >> >> >> agree?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Re: repair - do you mean the "repair" process during deep scrub
>  - if
> >> >> >> yes,
> >> >> >> this is automatic - correct?
> >> >> >>     Or
> >> >> >> Are you referring to the explicit manually initiated repair
> commands?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -Sudip
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> From: Samuel Just [mailto:sam.just at inktank.com]
> >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:50 AM
> >> >> >> To: Chahal, Sudip
> >> >> >> Cc: Christian Eichelmann; ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [ceph-users] scrub error on firefly
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Repair I think will tend to choose the copy with the lowest osd
> number
> >> >> >> which is not obviously corrupted.  Even with three replicas, it
> does
> >> >> >> not do
> >> >> >> any kind of voting at this time.
> >> >> >> -Sam
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Chahal, Sudip
> >> >> >> <sudip.chahal at intel.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > I've a basic related question re: Firefly operation - would
> >> >> >> > appreciate
> >> >> >> > any insights:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > With three replicas, if checksum inconsistencies across
> replicas are
> >> >> >> > found during deep-scrub then:
> >> >> >> >         a.  does the majority win or is the primary always the
> winner
> >> >> >> > and used to overwrite the secondaries
> >> >> >> >                 b. is this reconciliation done automatically
> during
> >> >> >> > deep-scrub or does each reconciliation have to be executed
> manually
> >> >> >> > by the
> >> >> >> > administrator?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > With 2 replicas - how are things different (if at all):
> >> >> >> >                a. The primary is declared the winner - correct?
> >> >> >> >                b. is this reconciliation done automatically
> during
> >> >> >> > deep-scrub or does it have to be done "manually" because there
> is no
> >> >> >> > majority?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -Sudip
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> > From: ceph-users [mailto:ceph-users-bounces at lists.ceph.com] On
> Behalf
> >> >> >> > Of Samuel Just
> >> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 10:16 AM
> >> >> >> > To: Christian Eichelmann
> >> >> >> > Cc: ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> >> > Subject: Re: [ceph-users] scrub error on firefly
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Can you attach your ceph.conf for your osds?
> >> >> >> > -Sam
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Christian Eichelmann
> >> >> >> > <christian.eichelmann at 1und1.de> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> I can also confirm that after upgrading to firefly both of our
> >> >> >> >> clusters (test and live) were going from 0 scrub errors each
> for
> >> >> >> >> about
> >> >> >> >> 6 Month to about 9-12 per week...
> >> >> >> >> This also makes me kind of nervous, since as far as I know
> >> >> >> >> everything
> >> >> >> >> "ceph pg repair" does, is to copy the primary object to all
> >> >> >> >> replicas,
> >> >> >> >> no matter which object is the correct one.
> >> >> >> >> Of course the described method of manual checking works (for
> pools
> >> >> >> >> with more than 2 replicas), but doing this in a large cluster
> nearly
> >> >> >> >> every week is horribly timeconsuming and error prone.
> >> >> >> >> It would be great to get an explanation for the increased
> numbers of
> >> >> >> >> scrub errors since firefly. Were they just not detected
> correctly in
> >> >> >> >> previous versions? Or is there maybe something wrong with the
> new
> >> >> >> >> code?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Acutally, our company is currently preventing our projects to
> move
> >> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> ceph because of this problem.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> >> >> Christian
> >> >> >> >> ________________________________
> >> >> >> >> Von: ceph-users [ceph-users-bounces at lists.ceph.com]" im
> Auftrag von
> >> >> >> >> "Travis Rhoden [trhoden at gmail.com]
> >> >> >> >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2014 16:24
> >> >> >> >> An: Gregory Farnum
> >> >> >> >> Cc: ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> >> >> Betreff: Re: [ceph-users] scrub error on firefly
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> And actually just to follow-up, it does seem like there are
> some
> >> >> >> >> additional smarts beyond just using the primary to overwrite
> the
> >> >> >> >> secondaries...  Since I captured md5 sums before and after the
> >> >> >> >> repair, I can say that in this particular instance, the
> secondary
> >> >> >> >> copy
> >> >> >> >> was used to overwrite the primary.
> >> >> >> >> So, I'm just trusting Ceph to the right thing, and so far it
> seems
> >> >> >> >> to, but the comments here about needing to determine the
> correct
> >> >> >> >> object and place it on the primary PG make me wonder if I've
> been
> >> >> >> >> missing something.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>  - Travis
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:19 AM, Travis Rhoden <
> trhoden at gmail.com>
> >> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> I can also say that after a recent upgrade to Firefly, I have
> >> >> >> >>> experienced massive uptick in scrub errors.  The cluster was
> on
> >> >> >> >>> cuttlefish for about a year, and had maybe one or two scrub
> errors.
> >> >> >> >>> After upgrading to Firefly, we've probably seen 3 to 4 dozen
> in the
> >> >> >> >>> last month or so (was getting 2-3 a day for a few weeks until
> the
> >> >> >> >>> whole cluster was rescrubbed, it seemed).
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> What I cannot determine, however, is how to know which object
> is
> >> >> >> >>> busted?
> >> >> >> >>> For example, just today I ran into a scrub error.  The object
> has
> >> >> >> >>> two copies and is an 8MB piece of an RBD, and has identical
> >> >> >> >>> timestamps, identical xattrs names and values.  But it
> definitely
> >> >> >> >>> has a different
> >> >> >> >>> MD5 sum. How to know which one is correct?
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> I've been just kicking off pg repair each time, which seems
> to just
> >> >> >> >>> use the primary copy to overwrite the others.  Haven't run
> into any
> >> >> >> >>> issues with that so far, but it does make me nervous.
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>  - Travis
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:06 AM, Gregory Farnum <
> greg at inktank.com>
> >> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> It's not very intuitive or easy to look at right now (there
> are
> >> >> >> >>>> plans from the recent developer summit to improve things),
> but the
> >> >> >> >>>> central log should have output about exactly what objects are
> >> >> >> >>>> busted. You'll then want to compare the copies manually to
> >> >> >> >>>> determine which ones are good or bad, get the good copy on
> the
> >> >> >> >>>> primary (make sure you preserve xattrs), and run repair.
> >> >> >> >>>> -Greg
> >> >> >> >>>> Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>>
> >> >> >> >>>> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Randy Smith <
> rbsmith at adams.edu>
> >> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >> >>>> > Greetings,
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>> > I upgraded to firefly last week and I suddenly received
> this
> >> >> >> >>>> > error:
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>> > health HEALTH_ERR 1 pgs inconsistent; 1 scrub errors
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>> > ceph health detail shows the following:
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>> > HEALTH_ERR 1 pgs inconsistent; 1 scrub errors pg 3.c6 is
> >> >> >> >>>> > active+clean+inconsistent, acting [2,5]
> >> >> >> >>>> > 1 scrub errors
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>> > The docs say that I can run `ceph pg repair 3.c6` to fix
> this.
> >> >> >> >>>> > What I want to know is what are the risks of data loss if
> I run
> >> >> >> >>>> > that command in this state and how can I mitigate them?
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>> > --
> >> >> >> >>>> > Randall Smith
> >> >> >> >>>> > Computing Services
> >> >> >> >>>> > Adams State University
> >> >> >> >>>> > http://www.adams.edu/
> >> >> >> >>>> > 719-587-7741
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >>>> > ceph-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >>>> > ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> >> >>>> > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
> >> >> >> >>>> >
> >> >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >>>> ceph-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >>>> ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> >> >>>> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> ceph-users mailing list
> >> >> >> >> ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> >> >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> > ceph-users mailing list
> >> >> >> > ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> >> > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
> >> >> >> _______________________________________________
> >> >> >> ceph-users mailing list
> >> >> >> ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Randall Smith
> >> >> > Computing Services
> >> >> > Adams State University
> >> >> > http://www.adams.edu/
> >> >> > 719-587-7741
> >> >> >
> >> >> > _______________________________________________
> >> >> > ceph-users mailing list
> >> >> > ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> >> > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
> >> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Randall Smith
> >> > Computing Services
> >> > Adams State University
> >> > http://www.adams.edu/
> >> > 719-587-7741
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ceph-users mailing list
> >> ceph-users at lists.ceph.com
> >> http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com
> >>
> >>
>



-- 
Randall Smith
Computing Services
Adams State University
http://www.adams.edu/
719-587-7741
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