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El 13/05/14 14:23, Christian Balzer escribi?:
> On Tue, 13 May 2014 12:07:12 +0200 Xabier Elkano wrote:
>
>> El 13/05/14 11:31, Christian Balzer escribi?:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> No actual question, just some food for thought and something that later
>>> generations can scour from the ML archive.
>>>
>>> I'm planning another Ceph storage cluster, this time a "classic" Ceph
>>> design, 3 storage nodes with 8 HDDs for OSDs and 4 SSDs for OS and
>>> journal.
>> Christian, do yo have many clusters in production? Are there any
>> advantages with many clusters vs different pools per cluster? What is
>> the right way to go?, maintain a big cluster or different clusters?
> Nope, I'm certainly a Ceph newb in many ways. That will be my third.
>
> The reasons for having different clusters can be locality (one is not at
> our main DC) and also special use cases (speed vs. size vs. cost vs.
> density, etc).
>
> Pools can do pretty much cover a lot of reasons why one would have
> different clusters and I think the lower administrative overhead makes
> them quite attractive.
>
>>> When juggling the budget for it the 12 DC3700 200GB SSDs of my first
>>> draft stood out like the proverbial sore thumb, nearly 1/6th of the
>>> total budget. 
>>> I really like those SSDs with their smooth performance and durability
>>> of 1TB/day writes (over 5 years, same for all the other numbers
>>> below), but wondered if that was really needed. 
>>>
>>> This cluster is supposed to provide the storage for VMs (Vservers
>>> really) that are currently on 3 DRBD cluster pairs.
>>> Not particular write intensive, all of them just total about 20GB/day.
>>> With 2 journals per SSD that's 5GB/day of writes, well within the Intel
>>> specification of 20GB/day for their 530 drives (180GB version).
>>>
>>> However the uneven IOPS of the 530 and potential future changes in
>>> write patterns make this 300% safety margin still to slim for my
>>> liking.
>>>
>>> Alas a DC3500 240GB SSD will perform well enough at half the price of
>>> the DC3700 and give me enough breathing room at about 80GB/day writes,
>>> so this is what I will order in the end.
>> Did you consider DC3700 100G with similar price?
> The 3500 is already potentially slower than the actual HDDs when doing
> sequential writes, the 100GB 3700 most definitely so.
>
> Christian.
What type of disks are you going to use for OSDs? 3700 100G can handle
200MB/s in sequential writes. Is this not enought for 2 SAS disk journal?

Xabier
>
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