Re: Ceph Deployments

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On 2013-08-19 18:36, Schmitt, Christian wrote:
Currently the first question would be, is it possible to have a ceph single node setup, where everything is on one node?
Yes, definitely, I've currently got a single-node ceph 'cluster', but, to the best of my knowledge, it's not the recommended configuration for long-term usage; in the coming weeks (given this is a home server), I'll be attempting to bring up another two nodes.

Our Application, Ceph's object storage and a database? We focus on this deployment model for our very small customers, who only have like 20 members that use our application, so the load wouldn't be very high. And the next question would be, is it possible to extend the Ceph single node to 3 nodes later, if they need more availability?
I'm not sure how much ram the monitor and mds take, but each osd (disk) seems to nominally use 300M of ram. My 'server' is a micro-ATX board with 5 spinning disks and a SSD, plugged into a small UPS; total cost about 2000 AUD. It's running a mail-server, backuppc for the other VMs, PCs and laptops in the house, a file-server re-exporting the disk from ceph, and some other random stuff. The VMs chew up a little more than 8G of ram in total, and on the 16G machine, there doesn't seem to be any performance problems (with only two users, mind you).

Also we always want to use Shared Nothing Machines, so every service would be on one machine, is this Okai for Ceph, or does Ceph really need a lot of CPU/Memory/Disk Speed? Currently we make an archiving software for small customers and we want to move things on the file system on a object storage. Currently we only have customers that needs 1 machine or 3 machines. But everything should work as fine on more.
Depending on your definition of 'machine', a cluster of 3 smaller machines may be substitutable for a single larger one; with the hope that hardware failure only takes out 1 node, leaving the whole cluster still online and able to be restored to full capacity at your (relative) leisure, rather than Right Now, as the backups aren't running anymore...

The two 'new' nodes I'm spinning up are my old desktop machine and its predecessor, which, arguably could be construed as being 'free'. =)

For firms of your target size, it may be an effective thing to suggest upgrading one or more desktops, and use the old machines to run the backup system on. Especially if you're charging for the service provided, more than for the hardware, you may be able to consolidate multiple existing servers into VMs running on a ceph cluster, with enough spare capacity to also run your backup suite, with minimal to no actual hardware outlay.

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Martin Rudat


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