Re: storing pg logs outside of rocksdb

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Hi,
  Before we move forward, could someone give a test such that
the pglog not written into rocksdb at all, to see how much is the
performance improvement as the upper bound, it shoule be less than
turning on the bluestore_debug_omit_kv_commit

Cheers,
Li Wang

2018-04-02 13:29 GMT+08:00 xiaoyan li <wisher2003@xxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi all,
>
> Based on your above discussion about pglog, I have the following rough
> design. Please help to give your suggestions.
>
> There will be three partitions: raw part for customer IOs, Bluefs for
> Rocksdb, and pglog partition.
> The former two partitions are same as current. The pglog partition is
> splitted into 1M blocks. We allocate blocks for ring buffers per pg.
> We will have such following data:
>
> Allocation bitmap (just in memory)
>
> The pglog partition has a bitmap to record which block is allocated or
> not. We can rebuild it through pg->allocated_block_list when starting,
> and no need to store it in persistent disk. But we will store basic
> information about the pglog partition in Rocksdb, like block size,
> block number etc when the objectstore is initialized.
>
> Pg -> allocated_blocks_list
>
> When a pg is created and IOs start, we can allocate a block for every
> pg. Every pglog entry is less than 300 bytes, 1M can store 3495
> entries. When total pglog entries increase and exceed the number, we
> can add a new block to the pg.
>
> Pg->start_position
>
> Record the oldest valid entry per pg.
>
> Pg->next_position
>
> Record the next entry to add per pg. The data will be updated
> frequently, but Rocksdb is suitable for its io mode, and most of
> data will be merged.
>
> Updated Bluestore write progess:
>
> When writing data to disk (before metadata updating), we can append
> the pglog entry to its ring buffer in parallel.
> After that, submit pg ring buffer changes like pg->next_position, and
> current other metadata changes to Rocksdb.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 6:23 PM, Varada Kari <varada.kari@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 1:01 PM, Li Wang <laurence.liwang@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>   If we wanna store pg log in a standalone ring buffer, another candidate
>>> is the deferred write, why not use the ring buffer as the journal for 4K random
>>> write, it should be much more lightweight than rocksdb
>>>
>> It will be similar to FileStore implementation, for small writes. That
>> comes with the same alignment issues and given
>> write amplification. Rocksdb nicely abstracts that and we don't make
>> it to L0 files because of WAL handling.
>>
>> Varada
>>> Cheers,
>>> Li Wang
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-03-30 4:04 GMT+08:00 Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>>>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2018, Matt Benjamin wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Mark Nelson <mnelson@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> > On 03/28/2018 12:21 PM, Adam C. Emerson wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2) It sure feels like conceptually the pglog should be represented as a
>>>>> > per-pg ring buffer rather than key/value data.  Maybe there are really
>>>>> > important reasons that it shouldn't be, but I don't currently see them.  As
>>>>> > far as the objectstore is concerned, it seems to me like there are valid
>>>>> > reasons to provide some kind of log interface and perhaps that should be
>>>>> > used for pg_log.  That sort of opens the door for different object store
>>>>> > implementations fulfilling that functionality in whatever ways the author
>>>>> > deems fit.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the reddit lingo, pretty much this.  We should be concentrating on
>>>>> this direction, or ruling it out.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, +1
>>>>
>>>> It seems like step 1 is a proof of concept branch that encodes
>>>> pg_log_entry_t's and writes them to a simple ring buffer.  The first
>>>> questions to answer is (a) whether this does in fact improve things
>>>> significantly and (b) whether we want to have an independent ring buffer
>>>> for each PG or try to mix them into one big one for the whole OSD (or
>>>> maybe per shard).
>>>>
>>>> The second question is how that fares on HDDs.  My guess is that the
>>>> current rocksdb strategy is better because it reduces the number of IOs
>>>> and the additional data getting compacted (and CPU usage) isn't the
>>>> limiting factor on HDD perforamnce (IOPS are).  (But maybe we'll get lucky
>>>> and the new strategy will be best for both HDD and SSD..)
>>>>
>>>> Then we have to modify PGLog to be a complete implementation.  A strict
>>>> ring buffer probably won't work because the PG log might not trim and
>>>> because log entries are variable length, so there'll probably need to be
>>>> some simple mapping table (vs a trivial start/end ring buffer position) to
>>>> deal with that.  We have to trim the log periodically, so every so many
>>>> entries we may want to realign with a min_alloc_size boundary.  We
>>>> someones have to back up and rewrite divergent portions of the log (during
>>>> peering) so we'll need to sort out whether that is a complete
>>>> reencode/rewrite or whether we keep encoded entries in ram (individually
>>>> or in chunks), etc etc.
>>>>
>>>> sage
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> Lisa
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