Hi Ivan, In the use case, we expected the Pool A and Pool B have different sets of OSDs and different sets of hosts or racks are even recommended. Thanks, Jeegn 2017-12-27 14:01 GMT+08:00 yuxiang fang <abcdeffyx@xxxxxxxxx>: > Hi Jeegn > > It seems that new nodes have to be added to the same failure domain of > Pool B, otherwise we can't expand the capacity. > Then Pool B will be affected by recovery of Pool A, they are different > Pools logically but distributed in same failure domain. > > thanks > ivan from eisoo > > > On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Jeegn Chen <jeegnchen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> In the daily use of Ceph RGW cluster, we find some pain points when >> using current one-bucket-one-data-pool implementation. >> I guess one-bucket-multiple-data-pools may help (See the appended >> detailed proposal). >> What do you think? >> >> >> https://etherpad.net/p/multiple-data-pool-support-for-a-bucket >> >> # **Multiple Data Pool Support for a Bucket** >> >> ## >> >> ## Motivation >> >> Currently, a bucket in RGW only has a single data pool (extra data >> pool is just a temporary storage for in-progressing multipart meta >> data, which is not in our consideration). The major pain points here >> are: >> >> - When the data pool is out of storage and we have to expand it, we >> either have to tolerate the performance penalty due to high recovery >> IO or have to wait for a long time for the rebalance to complete(This >> situation is especially true when the original cluster is relatively >> small and the expansion usually means doubling the size). >> >> >> - Although the new nodes increase the storage capacity, they also >> reduce the average PG number per OSD, which may make the data >> distribution uneven. To address this ,we either have to reweight or >> have to increase the PG number, which means another data movement. >> >> If a bucket can have multiple data pools and switch between them, the >> maintenance may be easier: >> >> - The cluster admin can simply add new nodes, create another data pool >> and then make buckets write to the new pool. Thus no rebalance is >> needed and in turn the expansion is quick and almost has no observable >> impact on the bucket user. >> >> >> - Say a bucket have 2 data pools: Pool A and Pool B. Some maintence is >> needed for the nodes of both pools. The admin can make write operation >> go to Pool B (read cannot be switched since data is not moved), >> operate the nodes of Pool A, then switch the write IO back to Pool A, >> goes on to operates the nodes of Pool B, so that the maintenance >> operations may be carried out without high write IO interference and >> in turn the risk and difficulties are reduced. >> >> ## Design >> >> "Multiple Data Pool" is borrowed from CephFS. Any directory in CephFS >> can have its data pool and the data pool can be replaced any time. >> After the data pool switch, the new file written to the directory is >> persisted into the new pool while the old file in the previous pool is >> still accessible since metadata in meta pool has the correct >> reference. >> >> The major idea to support multiple data pool for a bucket is >> >> - Reuse the the existing data_pool to store the head, which always has >> 0 size but keeps the manifest referring to the data part in another >> pool. >> >> >> - Add a new concept tail_pool, which is used to store the data except the heads. >> >> >> - The data_pool of a bucket (now only has the heads, is in fact a >> metadata pool or a head pool) should not be changed but the bucket can >> switch between different tail_pools. >> >> ### Change in RGWZonePlacementInfo >> >> - Add a new field data_layout_type to RGWZonePlacementInfo. The >> default value for data_layout_type is 0 (name it as UNIFIED), which >> means current implementation. Let's use value 1 (name it as SPLITTED) >> for Multiple Data Pool Support. >> >> >> - Add a new field tail_pools, which is a list of pool names. >> >> >> - Add a new field current_tail_pool, which is one of the pool names in >> tail_pools. >> >> ### >> >> ### Change in Object Head >> >> Add a new xattr usr.rgw.tail_pool, which refer to the pool where the >> tail parts of the object reside. >> >> ### Change in Multipart Meta Object >> >> Add a new xattr usr.rgw.tail_pool, which refer to the pool where the >> multiparts of the object reside. This value should be decided in >> InitMulitpart and be followed by other operations against the same >> upload ID of the same object. >> >> ### Change in Write Operations >> >> If a bucket's data_layout_type is SPLITTED (and has no >> explicit_placment), only write 0-size head (including >> usr.rgw.tail_pool and all other xattrs) to data_pool and persist the >> tail in current_tail_pool. >> >> For efficiency, it is recommended to use replicated pool on SSD as data_pool. >> >> ### Change in Read Operations >> >> If a bucket's data_layout_type is SPLITTED (and has no >> explicit_placment), read the tail parts according to usr.rgw.tail_pool >> in the head. >> >> ### >> >> ### Change in GC >> >> If a bucket's data_layout_type is SPLITTED (and has no >> explicit_placment), the correct user.rgw.tail_pool should be record in >> GC list as well so that GC thread can remove tail parts correctly. >> >> ### Change in radosgw-admin >> >> Need new commands to modify and show modified RGWZonePlacementInfo(Add >> new pool to tail_pools, change current_tail_pool and so on) >> >> Thanks, >> Jeegn >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html