Re: Encrypted over WAN?

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On 10/02/2017 04:34 PM, Gregory Farnum wrote:
On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 2:48 AM, Joao Eduardo Luis <joao@xxxxxxx> wrote:
On 10/02/2017 10:46 AM, Two Spirit wrote:

I think that is a hard security pill to swallow sending data in
plaintext over the WAN. I think there are mitm and replay attack
issues. I dont think anyone would knowingly send unencrypted file
server content across the WAN.

I think in about 15 states or so, Sarbanes Oxley laws prevents certain
personal information to be "transmitted" in the clear. You need to ask
a lawyer what that means. maybe it doesn't apply here.  This is
information HR and Finance depts typically hold. I could see that some
HR could be clueless on what their file system is doing with their
data. Also IT guys don't necessarily know corporate law. I don't know
if HIPAA or Gramm-Leach-Blilely Act would have problems. I don't think
Equifax will use Ceph.

In a federated setup, is there a way to wrap the region to region
traffic and encrypt?


Just because Ceph doesn't natively encrypt on-the-wire communication, it
doesn't mean you can't have an encrypted layer if that's something you need.

   -Joao



On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Joao Eduardo Luis <joao@xxxxxxx> wrote:

On 10/02/2017 07:18 AM, Two Spirit wrote:


The Ceph Object Gateway supports server-side encryption of uploaded
objects, with 3 options for the management of encryption keys.
Server-side
encryption means that the data is sent over HTTP in its unencrypted
form,
and the Ceph Object Gateway stores that data in the Ceph Storage
Cluster in
encrypted form.



It sounds like OSD to OSD traffic is unencrypted.

1) Does "stores data in the cluster in encrypted form" mean *only* if
the --dmcrypt option is used?

2) Does that mean the zone  to zone copy across a WAN is also
unencrypted?



Ceph does not have on-the-wire encryption.

    -Joao

Keep in mind there are two different protocols here. The internal Ceph
messenger protocol for OSD replication and RADOS clients is not
encrypted at all. But the RADOS Gateway multi-site federation all
happens over HTTP. And I believe it's easy to configure to HTTPS since
it provides all those encryption over-the-wire options. ;)

TIL. Thanks!

  -Joao

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