Re: autodetecting init system.

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On Mon, 11 May 2015, John Spray wrote:
> On 11/05/2015 17:29, Owen Synge wrote:
> > Dear all,
> > 
> > Many init systems are used in linux now. Some ceph code needs to know
> > the init system. (I must admit I have not looked into Solaris, MacOS and
> > BSD and probably should have)
> > 
> > It would be nice to have one function that detects the init system
> > 
> > Since the init system can be specified in ceph and ceph-deploy
> > explicitly it seems to be its reasonable to fail clearly to detect init
> > system.
>
> I think I'm missing some background here.  I was under the impression that
> distros generally had a preferred init system (even if they let you switch),
> and if another is in use then compatibility links are usually provided (e.g.
> sysv-style calling through to systemd or vice versa).  Given that, the distro
> packaging then uses whatever the "right" way to start a service is for that
> distro, and it's up to the distro to make sure that command is available.
> 
> Otherwise don't we descend into a kind of madness where a package post-install
> script can't start a service, because it doesn't know what command to run?

Ceph daemons are marked with a file like 
/var/lib/ceph/$type/.../{upstart,systemd,sysvinit} indicating which init 
system is responsible for starting/stopping them.  This is necesary mainly 
because on most systems they *do* coexist--at least with sysvinit scripts.

Owen, this is basically what ceph-detect-init is doing now, right?

IIRC the users are:

 - ceph-disk, when creating a new osd
 - ceph-deploy, when deploying a mon or mds or rgw

Thanks!
sage

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