Re: [ceph-users] Crushmap ruleset for rack aware PG placement

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Loic,
      You are right.  Are we planning to support configurations where
replica number is different from the number of osds selected from a  rule?
If not, One solution is to add a validation check when a rule is activated
for a pool of a specific replica.

Johnu

On 9/17/14, 9:10 AM, "Loic Dachary" <loic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>If the number of replica desired is 1, then
>
>https://github.com/ceph/ceph/blob/firefly/src/crush/CrushWrapper.h#L915
>
>will be called with maxout = 1 and scratch will be maxout * 3. But if the
>rule always selects 4 items, then it overflows. Is it what you also read ?
>
>Cheers
>
>On 17/09/2014 16:42, Johnu George (johnugeo) wrote:
>> Adding ceph-devel
>> 
>> On 9/17/14, 1:27 AM, "Loic Dachary" <loic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>> Could you resend with ceph-devel in cc ? It's better for archive
>>>purposes
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> On 17/09/2014 09:37, Johnu George (johnugeo) wrote:
>>>> Hi Sage,
>>>>          I was looking at the crash that was reported in this mail
>>>> chain.
>>>> I am seeing that the crash happens when number of replicas configured
>>>>is
>>>> less than total number of osds to be selected as per rule. This is
>>>> because, the crush temporary buffers are allocated as per num_rep
>>>>size.
>>>> (scratch array has size num_rep * 3) So, when number of osds to be
>>>> selected is more, buffer overflow happens and it causes error/crash. I
>>>> saw
>>>> your earlier comment in this mail  where you asked to create a rule
>>>>that
>>>> selects two osds per rack(2 racks) with num_rep=3. I feel that buffer
>>>> overflow issue should happen in this situation too, that can cause
>>>>'out
>>>> of
>>>> array' access. Am I wrong somewhere or am I missing something?
>>>>
>>>> Johnu
>>>>
>>>> On 9/16/14, 9:39 AM, "Daniel Swarbrick"
>>>> <daniel.swarbrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Loic,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for providing a detailed example. I'm able to run the example
>>>>> that you provide, and also got my own live crushmap to produce some
>>>>> results, when I appended the "--num-rep 3" option to the command.
>>>>> Without that option, even your example is throwing segfaults - maybe
>>>>>a
>>>>> bug in crushtool?
>>>>>
>>>>> One other area I wasn't sure about - can the final "chooseleaf" step
>>>>> specify "firstn 0" for simplicity's sake (and to automatically
>>>>>handle a
>>>>> larger pool size in future) ? Would there be any downside to this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16/09/14 16:20, Loic Dachary wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I run
>>>>>>
>>>>>> crushtool --outfn crushmap --build --num_osds 100 host straw 2 rack
>>>>>> straw 10 default straw 0
>>>>>> crushtool -d crushmap -o crushmap.txt
>>>>>> cat >> crushmap.txt <<EOF
>>>>>> rule myrule {
>>>>>> 	ruleset 1
>>>>>> 	type replicated
>>>>>> 	min_size 1
>>>>>> 	max_size 10
>>>>>> 	step take default
>>>>>> 	step choose firstn 2 type rack
>>>>>> 	step chooseleaf firstn 2 type host
>>>>>> 	step emit
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> EOF
>>>>>> crushtool -c crushmap.txt -o crushmap
>>>>>> crushtool -i crushmap --test --show-utilization --rule 1 --min-x 1
>>>>>> --max-x 10 --num-rep 3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rule 1 (myrule), x = 1..10, numrep = 3..3
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 1 [79,69,10]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 2 [56,58,60]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 3 [30,26,19]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 4 [14,8,69]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 5 [7,4,88]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 6 [54,52,37]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 7 [69,67,19]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 8 [51,46,83]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 9 [55,56,35]
>>>>>> CRUSH rule 1 x 10 [54,51,95]
>>>>>> rule 1 (myrule) num_rep 3 result size == 3:	10/10
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What command are you running to get a core dump ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16/09/2014 12:02, Daniel Swarbrick wrote:
>>>>>>> On 15/09/14 17:28, Sage Weil wrote:
>>>>>>>> rule myrule {
>>>>>>>> 	ruleset 1
>>>>>>>> 	type replicated
>>>>>>>> 	min_size 1
>>>>>>>> 	max_size 10
>>>>>>>> 	step take default
>>>>>>>> 	step choose firstn 2 type rack
>>>>>>>> 	step chooseleaf firstn 2 type host
>>>>>>>> 	step emit
>>>>>>>> }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That will give you 4 osds, spread across 2 hosts in each rack.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>> pool 
>>>>>>>> size (replication factor) is 3, so RADOS will just use the first
>>>>>>>> three (2 
>>>>>>>> hosts in first rack, 1 host in second rack).
>>>>>>> I have a similar requirement, where we currently have four nodes,
>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> each fire zone, with pool size 3. At the moment, due to the number
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>> nodes, we are guaranteed at least one replica in each fire zone
>>>>>>> (which
>>>>>>> we represent with bucket type "room"). If we add more nodes in
>>>>>>> future,
>>>>>>> the current ruleset may cause all three replicas of a PG to land
>>>>>>>in a
>>>>>>> single zone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I tried the ruleset suggested above (replacing "rack" with "room"),
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> when testing it with crushtool --test --show-utilization, I simply
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> segfaults. No amount of fiddling around seems to make it work -
>>>>>>>even
>>>>>>> adding two new hypothetical nodes to the crushmap doesn't help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What could I perhaps be doing wrong?
>>>>>>>
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>>> -- 
>>> Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre
>>>
>> 
>
>-- 
>Loïc Dachary, Artisan Logiciel Libre
>

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