Re: OSD memory leaks?

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Sebastien,

I'm not totally sure yet, but everything is still working. 


Sage and Greg, 
I copied my glance image pool per the posting I mentioned previously, and everything works when I use the ceph tools. I can export rbds from the new pool and delete them as well.

I noticed that the copied images pool does not work with glance. 

I get this error when I try to create images in the new pool. If I put the old pool back, I can create images no problem. 

Is there something I'm missing in glance that I need to work with a pool created in bobtail? I'm using Openstack Folsom. 

  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/glance/api/v1/images.py", line 437, in _upload                 
    image_meta['size'])                                                                                  
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/glance/store/rbd.py", line 244, in add                          
    image_size, order)                                                                                   
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/glance/store/rbd.py", line 207, in _create_image                
    features=rbd.RBD_FEATURE_LAYERING)                                                                   
  File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/rbd.py", line 194, in create                                    
    raise make_ex(ret, 'error creating image')                                                           
PermissionError: error creating image


Dave Spano 
 



----- Original Message ----- 

From: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx> 
To: "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
Cc: "Greg Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 3:59:03 PM 
Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks? 

Dave, 

Just to be sure, did the log max recent=10000 _completely_ stod the 
memory leak or did it slow it down? 

Thanks! 
-- 
Regards, 
Sébastien Han. 


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Dave Spano <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Lol. I'm totally fine with that. My glance images pool isn't used too often. I'm going to give that a try today and see what happens. 
> 
> I'm still crossing my fingers, but since I added log max recent=10000 to ceph.conf, I've been okay despite the improper pg_num, and a lot of scrubbing/deep scrubbing yesterday. 
> 
> Dave Spano 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: "Greg Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
> To: "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
> Cc: "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx>, "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx> 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:37:37 PM 
> Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks? 
> 
> Yeah. There's not anything intelligent about that cppool mechanism. :) 
> -Greg 
> 
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Dave Spano wrote: 
> 
>> I'd rather shut the cloud down and copy the pool to a new one than take any chances of corruption by using an experimental feature. My guess is that there cannot be any i/o to the pool while copying, otherwise you'll lose the changes that are happening during the copy, correct? 
>> 
>> Dave Spano 
>> Optogenics 
>> Systems Administrator 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> 
>> From: "Greg Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)> 
>> To: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)> 
>> Cc: "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx)>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:20:13 PM 
>> Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks? 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Sébastien Han wrote: 
>> > Well to avoid un necessary data movement, there is also an 
>> > _experimental_ feature to change on fly the number of PGs in a pool. 
>> > 
>> > ceph osd pool set <poolname> pg_num <numpgs> --allow-experimental-feature 
>> Don't do that. We've got a set of 3 patches which fix bugs we know about that aren't in bobtail yet, and I'm sure there's more we aren't aware of… 
>> -Greg 
>> 
>> Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com 
>> 
>> > 
>> > Cheers! 
>> > -- 
>> > Regards, 
>> > Sébastien Han. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Dave Spano <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote: 
>> > > Disregard my previous question. I found my answer in the post below. Absolutely brilliant! I thought I was screwed! 
>> > > 
>> > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.ceph.devel/8924 
>> > > 
>> > > Dave Spano 
>> > > Optogenics 
>> > > Systems Administrator 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > 
>> > > From: "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)> 
>> > > To: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)> 
>> > > Cc: "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx)>, "Gregory Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> 
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:41:21 PM 
>> > > Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks? 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > If one were stupid enough to have their pg_num and pgp_num set to 8 on two of their pools, how could you fix that? 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > Dave Spano 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > > 
>> > > From: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)> 
>> > > To: "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> 
>> > > Cc: "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx)>, "Gregory Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx)> 
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:43:44 AM 
>> > > Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks? 
>> > > 
>> > > > Sorry, i mean pg_num and pgp_num on all pools. Shown by the "ceph osd 
>> > > > dump | grep 'rep size'" 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > Well it's still 450 each... 
>> > > 
>> > > > The default pg_num value 8 is NOT suitable for big cluster. 
>> > > 
>> > > Thanks I know, I'm not new with Ceph. What's your point here? I 
>> > > already said that pg_num was 450... 
>> > > -- 
>> > > Regards, 
>> > > Sébastien Han. 
>> > > 
>> > > 
>> > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Vladislav Gorbunov <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote: 
>> > > > Sorry, i mean pg_num and pgp_num on all pools. Shown by the "ceph osd 
>> > > > dump | grep 'rep size'" 
>> > > > The default pg_num value 8 is NOT suitable for big cluster. 
>> > > > 
>> > > > 2013/3/13 Sébastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>: 
>> > > > > Replica count has been set to 2. 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Why? 
>> > > > > -- 
>> > > > > Regards, 
>> > > > > Sébastien Han. 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Vladislav Gorbunov <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote: 
>> > > > > > > FYI I'm using 450 pgs for my pools. 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Please, can you show the number of object replicas? 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > ceph osd dump | grep 'rep size' 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Vlad Gorbunov 
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > 2013/3/5 Sébastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>: 
>> > > > > > > FYI I'm using 450 pgs for my pools. 
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > -- 
>> > > > > > > Regards, 
>> > > > > > > Sébastien Han. 
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote: 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Wido den Hollander wrote: 
>> > > > > > > > > On 02/23/2013 01:44 AM, Sage Weil wrote: 
>> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, S?bastien Han wrote: 
>> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, 
>> > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > I finally got a core dump. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > I did it with a kill -SEGV on the OSD process. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahv6hm0ipnak5rf/core-ceph-osd-11-0-0-20100-1361539008 
>> > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > Hope we will get something out of it :-). 
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > AHA! We have a theory. The pg log isnt trimmed during scrub (because teh 
>> > > > > > > > > > old scrub code required that), but the new (deep) scrub can take a very 
>> > > > > > > > > > long time, which means the pg log will eat ram in the meantime.. 
>> > > > > > > > > > especially under high iops. 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > Does the number of PGs influence the memory leak? So my theory is that when 
>> > > > > > > > > you have a high number of PGs with a low number of objects per PG you don't 
>> > > > > > > > > see the memory leak. 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > I saw the memory leak on a RBD system where a pool had just 8 PGs, but after 
>> > > > > > > > > going to 1024 PGs in a new pool it seemed to be resolved. 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > I've asked somebody else to try your patch since he's still seeing it on his 
>> > > > > > > > > systems. Hopefully that gives us some results. 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > The PGs were active+clean when you saw the leak? There is a problem (that 
>> > > > > > > > we just fixed in master) where pg logs aren't trimmed for degraded PGs. 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > sage 
>> > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > Wido 
>> > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > Can you try wip-osd-log-trim (which is bobtail + a simple patch) and see 
>> > > > > > > > > > if that seems to work? Note that that patch shouldn't be run in a mixed 
>> > > > > > > > > > argonaut+bobtail cluster, since it isn't properly checking if the scrub is 
>> > > > > > > > > > class or chunky/deep. 
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > Thanks! 
>> > > > > > > > > > sage 
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > -- 
>> > > > > > > > > > > Regards, 
>> > > > > > > > > > > S?bastien Han. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Gregory Farnum <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote: 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:57 AM, S?bastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)> 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is osd.1 using the heap profiler as well? Keep in mind that active 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > use 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the memory profiler will itself cause memory usage to increase ? 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this sounds a bit like that to me since it's staying stable at a 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > large 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but finite portion of total memory. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, the memory consumption was already high before the profiler was 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > started. So yes with the memory profiler enable an OSD might consume 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > more memory but this doesn't cause the memory leaks. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > My concern is that maybe you saw a leak but when you restarted with 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the memory profiling you lost whatever conditions caused it. 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? Nothing to say about my scrumbing theory? 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I like it, but Sam indicates that without some heap dumps which 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > capture the actual leak then scrub is too large to effectively code 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > review for leaks. :( 
>> > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg 
>> > > > > > > > > > > 
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