Re: OSD memory leaks?

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Dave,

Just to be sure, did the log max recent=10000 _completely_ stod the
memory leak or did it slow it down?

Thanks!
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Sébastien Han.


On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Dave Spano <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Lol. I'm totally fine with that. My glance images pool isn't used too often. I'm going to give that a try today and see what happens.
>
> I'm still crossing my fingers, but since I added log max recent=10000 to ceph.conf, I've been okay despite the improper pg_num, and a lot of scrubbing/deep scrubbing yesterday.
>
> Dave Spano
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Greg Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx>, "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 5:37:37 PM
> Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks?
>
> Yeah. There's not anything intelligent about that cppool mechanism. :)
> -Greg
>
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Dave Spano wrote:
>
>> I'd rather shut the cloud down and copy the pool to a new one than take any chances of corruption by using an experimental feature. My guess is that there cannot be any i/o to the pool while copying, otherwise you'll lose the changes that are happening during the copy, correct?
>>
>> Dave Spano
>> Optogenics
>> Systems Administrator
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Greg Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)>
>> To: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>
>> Cc: "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx)>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)>
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:20:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks?
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Sébastien Han wrote:
>> > Well to avoid un necessary data movement, there is also an
>> > _experimental_ feature to change on fly the number of PGs in a pool.
>> >
>> > ceph osd pool set <poolname> pg_num <numpgs> --allow-experimental-feature
>> Don't do that. We've got a set of 3 patches which fix bugs we know about that aren't in bobtail yet, and I'm sure there's more we aren't aware of…
>> -Greg
>>
>> Software Engineer #42 @ http://inktank.com | http://ceph.com
>>
>> >
>> > Cheers!
>> > --
>> > Regards,
>> > Sébastien Han.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Dave Spano <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
>> > > Disregard my previous question. I found my answer in the post below. Absolutely brilliant! I thought I was screwed!
>> > >
>> > > http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.file-systems.ceph.devel/8924
>> > >
>> > > Dave Spano
>> > > Optogenics
>> > > Systems Administrator
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >
>> > > From: "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>
>> > > To: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>
>> > > Cc: "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx)>, "Gregory Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 1:41:21 PM
>> > > Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > If one were stupid enough to have their pg_num and pgp_num set to 8 on two of their pools, how could you fix that?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Dave Spano
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > >
>> > > From: "Sébastien Han" <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>
>> > > To: "Vladislav Gorbunov" <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)>
>> > > Cc: "Sage Weil" <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx (mailto:wido@xxxxxxxx)>, "Gregory Farnum" <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Sylvain Munaut" <s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:s.munaut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Dave Spano" <dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:dspano@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "ceph-devel" <ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:ceph-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)>, "Samuel Just" <sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sam.just@xxxxxxxxxxx)>
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:43:44 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: OSD memory leaks?
>> > >
>> > > > Sorry, i mean pg_num and pgp_num on all pools. Shown by the "ceph osd
>> > > > dump | grep 'rep size'"
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Well it's still 450 each...
>> > >
>> > > > The default pg_num value 8 is NOT suitable for big cluster.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks I know, I'm not new with Ceph. What's your point here? I
>> > > already said that pg_num was 450...
>> > > --
>> > > Regards,
>> > > Sébastien Han.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Vladislav Gorbunov <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
>> > > > Sorry, i mean pg_num and pgp_num on all pools. Shown by the "ceph osd
>> > > > dump | grep 'rep size'"
>> > > > The default pg_num value 8 is NOT suitable for big cluster.
>> > > >
>> > > > 2013/3/13 Sébastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>:
>> > > > > Replica count has been set to 2.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Why?
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > Sébastien Han.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Vladislav Gorbunov <vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:vadikgo@xxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
>> > > > > > > FYI I'm using 450 pgs for my pools.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Please, can you show the number of object replicas?
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > ceph osd dump | grep 'rep size'
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Vlad Gorbunov
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > 2013/3/5 Sébastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>:
>> > > > > > > FYI I'm using 450 pgs for my pools.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > > Sébastien Han.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:sage@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Mar 2013, Wido den Hollander wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > On 02/23/2013 01:44 AM, Sage Weil wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, S?bastien Han wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > I finally got a core dump.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > I did it with a kill -SEGV on the OSD process.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/ahv6hm0ipnak5rf/core-ceph-osd-11-0-0-20100-1361539008
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Hope we will get something out of it :-).
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > AHA! We have a theory. The pg log isnt trimmed during scrub (because teh
>> > > > > > > > > > old scrub code required that), but the new (deep) scrub can take a very
>> > > > > > > > > > long time, which means the pg log will eat ram in the meantime..
>> > > > > > > > > > especially under high iops.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Does the number of PGs influence the memory leak? So my theory is that when
>> > > > > > > > > you have a high number of PGs with a low number of objects per PG you don't
>> > > > > > > > > see the memory leak.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I saw the memory leak on a RBD system where a pool had just 8 PGs, but after
>> > > > > > > > > going to 1024 PGs in a new pool it seemed to be resolved.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I've asked somebody else to try your patch since he's still seeing it on his
>> > > > > > > > > systems. Hopefully that gives us some results.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > The PGs were active+clean when you saw the leak? There is a problem (that
>> > > > > > > > we just fixed in master) where pg logs aren't trimmed for degraded PGs.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > sage
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Wido
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Can you try wip-osd-log-trim (which is bobtail + a simple patch) and see
>> > > > > > > > > > if that seems to work? Note that that patch shouldn't be run in a mixed
>> > > > > > > > > > argonaut+bobtail cluster, since it isn't properly checking if the scrub is
>> > > > > > > > > > class or chunky/deep.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > Thanks!
>> > > > > > > > > > sage
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
>> > > > > > > > > > > S?bastien Han.
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Gregory Farnum <greg@xxxxxxxxxxx (mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxx)> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 6:57 AM, S?bastien Han <han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx (mailto:han.sebastien@xxxxxxxxx)>
>> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is osd.1 using the heap profiler as well? Keep in mind that active
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > use
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the memory profiler will itself cause memory usage to increase ?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > this sounds a bit like that to me since it's staying stable at a
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > large
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > but finite portion of total memory.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, the memory consumption was already high before the profiler was
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > started. So yes with the memory profiler enable an OSD might consume
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > more memory but this doesn't cause the memory leaks.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > My concern is that maybe you saw a leak but when you restarted with
>> > > > > > > > > > > > the memory profiling you lost whatever conditions caused it.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas? Nothing to say about my scrumbing theory?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > I like it, but Sam indicates that without some heap dumps which
>> > > > > > > > > > > > capture the actual leak then scrub is too large to effectively code
>> > > > > > > > > > > > review for leaks. :(
>> > > > > > > > > > > > -Greg
>> > > > > > > > > > >
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