Re: OSD nodes with >=8 spinners, SSD-backed journals, and their performance impact

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On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Florian Haas <florian@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> thanks for the comments.
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Mark Nelson <mark.nelson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Florian,
>>
>> Couple of comments:
>>
>> "OSDs use a write-ahead mode for local operations: a write hits the journal
>> first, and from there is then being copied into the backing filestore."
>>
>> It's probably important to mention that this is true by default only for
>> non-btrfs file systems.  See:
>>
>> http://ceph.com/wiki/OSD_journal
>
> I am well aware of that, but I've yet to find a customer (or user)
> that's actually willing to entrust a production cluster with several
> hundred terabytes of data to btrfs. :) Besides, the whole post is
> about whether or not to use dedicated SSD block devices for OSD
> journals, and if you're tossing everything into btrfs you've already
> made the decision to use in-filestore journals.

That is absolutely not the case. btrfs works just fine with an
external journal on SSD or whatever else; what made you think
otherwise?
-Greg
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