In ceph case, such layout breakage may be necessary in almost all installations(except testing), comparing to almost all general-purpose server software which need division like that only in very specific setups. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Bernard Grymonpon <bernard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I feel it's up to the sysadmin to mount / symlink the correct storage devices on the correct paths - ceph should not be concerned that some volumes might need to sit together. > > Rgds, > Bernard > > On 05 Apr 2012, at 09:12, Andrey Korolyov wrote: > >> Right, but probably we need journal separation at the directory level >> by default, because there is a very small amount of cases when speed >> of main storage is sufficient for journal or when resulting speed >> decrease is not significant, so journal by default may go into >> /var/lib/ceph/osd/journals/$i/journal where osd/journals mounted on >> the fast disk. >> >> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Bernard Grymonpon <bernard@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On 05 Apr 2012, at 08:32, Sage Weil wrote: >>> >>>> We want to standardize the locations for ceph data directories, configs, >>>> etc. We'd also like to allow a single host to run OSDs that participate >>>> in multiple ceph clusters. We'd like easy to deal with names (i.e., avoid >>>> UUIDs if we can). >>>> >>>> The metavariables are: >>>> cluster = ceph (by default) >>>> type = osd, mon, mds >>>> id = 1, foo, >>>> name = $type.$id = osd.0, mds.a, etc. >>>> >>>> The $cluster variable will come from the command line (--cluster foo) or, >>>> in the case of a udev hotplug tool or something, matching the uuid on the >>>> device with the 'fsid = <uuid>' line in the available config files found >>>> in /etc/ceph. >>>> >>>> The locations could be: >>>> >>>> ceph config file: >>>> /etc/ceph/$cluster.conf (default is thus ceph.conf) >>>> >>>> keyring: >>>> /etc/ceph/$cluster.keyring (fallback to /etc/ceph/keyring) >>>> >>>> osd_data, mon_data: >>>> /var/lib/ceph/$cluster.$name >>>> /var/lib/ceph/$cluster/$name >>>> /var/lib/ceph/data/$cluster.$name >>>> /var/lib/ceph/$type-data/$cluster-$id >>>> >>>> TV and I talked about this today, and one thing we want is for items of a >>>> given type to live together in separate directory so that we don't have to >>>> do any filtering to, say, get all osd data directories. This suggests the >>>> last option (/var/lib/ceph/osd-data/ceph-1, >>>> /var/lib/ceph/mon-data/ceph-foo, etc.), but it's kind of fugly. >>>> >>>> Another option would be to make it >>>> >>>> /var/lib/ceph/$type-data/$id >>>> >>>> (with no $cluster) and make users override the default with something that >>>> includes $cluster (or $fsid, or whatever) in their $cluster.conf if/when >>>> they want multicluster nodes that don't interfere. Then we'd get >>>> /var/lib/ceph/osd-data/1 for non-crazy people, which is pretty easy. >>> >>> As a osd consists of data and the journal, it should stay together, with all info for that one osd in one place: >>> >>> I would suggest >>> >>> /var/lib/ceph/osd/$id/data >>> and >>> /var/lib/ceph/osd/$id/journal >>> >>> ($id could be replaced by $uuid or $name, for which I would prefer $uuid) >>> >>> Rgds, >>> Bernard >>> >>>> >>>> Any other suggestions? Thoughts? >>>> sage >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in >>>> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in >>> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> > -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html