Re: Re: how to debug hardware lockups?

["Rudi Ahlers" <rudiahlers@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Tru Huynh <tru@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:32:05AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
>> This comes down't to the old question of "what is a server"?
>>
> <rant deleted, mail trimmed>
> a server just "works", and provide a usable way to debug the OS
> whenever it's needed (mostly never).
> Cheap server have at least a serial port, because that the
> minimal device to interact with the bios/OS.
> More expensive server have some out of band management
> capabilities.
>
> Most of the time, they are not used, but when we **need** them
> these "plus" save your time which is what we value most (isn't it).
>
> But your server, your problems, and your choices.
>
> Just my .2 cents
>
> Tru
> --


Sure, I understand that. But then again, on my Dell servers, when I
have problems, I sit with the same issues. And those expensive
motherboards doesn't give me anything more than the cheaper ones. In
fact, when the RAM failed on the Dell's, they were unusable untill I
could get new RAM from a different supplier. With the cheaper board, I
drive down to the first PC shop and get new RAM.



-- 

Kind Regards
Rudi Ahlers
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