Re: NTP

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On Apr 3, 2007, at 4:21 AM, Morten Torstensen wrote:

Les Mikesell wrote:
Unless something has changed recently, ntp doesn't believe in multiple sources of time. It will pick the one it thinks is best and ignore the

Oh, ntp does indeed believe in multiple sources. Sure, only one is preferred and will be used as timesource, but it is constantly evaluating the other servers for lag/jitter and change primary source if it feels like it.

You should have an odd number of servers.. 1, 3, 5, ... and so on.

it appears that Morten, Les, and i are all correct. :)

from "Notes on setting up a NTP subnet" (http://www.eecis.udel.edu/ ~mills/ntp/html/notes.html):

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Each client in the synchronization subnet (which may also be a server for other, higher stratum clients) chooses exactly one of the available servers to synchronize to, usually from among the lowest stratum servers it has access to. This is, however, not always an optimal configuration, for indeed NTP operates under another premise as well, that each server's time should be viewed with a certain amount of distrust. NTP really prefers to have access to several sources of lower stratum time (at least three) since it can then apply an agreement algorithm to detect insanity on the part of any one of these. Normally, when all servers are in agreement, NTP will choose the best of these, where "best" is defined in terms of lowest stratum, closest (in terms of network delay) and claimed precision, along with several other considerations. The implication is that, while one should aim to provide each client with three or more sources of lower stratum time, several of these will only be providing backup service and may be of lesser quality in terms of network delay and stratum (i.e., a same-stratum peer which receives time from lower stratum sources the local server doesn't access directly can also provide good backup service).
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in a nutshell: while a NTP client is only using one timeserver at any given time for synchronization, the client prefers to be able to select among several different time sources and will switch preferred servers as it sees fit. thus, while it is perfectly possible to make NTP work with a single source of time, you are likely to see better performance if you configure several sources.

the reason i asked about network size is that it seems a bit silly to configure three time servers for a small home network of, say, four hosts - you may as well just make every host on your network an NTP peer, and point them all at each other and at some external time source. of course, this scheme doesn't scale very well.

-steve

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