On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 09:22 -0400, Chris Mauritz wrote:
> Frank Tanner III wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-08-04 at 13:15 +0200, Dag Wieers wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Frank Tanner III wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> It's no wonder that computer novices want nothing to do
with Linux.
> >>>
> >> Maybe Linux wants nothing to do with obnoxious people ?
> >>
> >> PS How you communicate influences how you are being
perceived, and how you
> >> are being perceived incluences how people respond. But if
you want to
> >> believe everybody who uses CentOS dislikes you, go ahead,
nobody is
> >> stopping you.
> >>
> >> Unless you want to believe they are. That's fine too. :)
> >>
> >>
> >
> > It's a well known "fact" amongst the general public that the
Linux
> > "evangelists" are a rude flaming bunch. There are hundreds
of news
> > articles stating such. An THIS is what the public in
general bases
> > their attitudes with regards to the community as a whole on.
> >
> > I communicated clearly and concisely. I didn't say ONE
negative thing
> > until I got jumped on; or didn't you actually read the
thread.
> >
>
> I just read this entire exchange. I think Karanbir's initial
response
> might have seemed a bit curt. Perhaps he was just busy. It
didn't seem
> like anyone went out of their way to annoy you. Your posts,
except for
> the first, have been insulting to others (and intentionally
so). Rather
> than lash out at "the community," a view into the mirror might
be more
> instructive. I've found the community in general and this
list in
> particular to be quite useful over the years. Sure, there is
the
> occasional wanker (some might even think I'm one of
them...heh), but I
> think your characterization of the community and the list is
wrong,
> unfair, and rather mean spirited.
>
> I hope you find a place to host your code and that you have a
chance to
> reflect on your behaviour and see that it was perhaps
triggered by a
> simple misunderstanding rather than malice.
>
My characterization of the community is spot-on with regards to
the way
that I have been treated both on the forums and in the mailing
list
over-all.
I go out of my way to provide a document that I think might be
useful to
others and get nothing but harsh criticism for it. How would
YOU feel
if the roles were reversed? I wasn't looking for a "Thank you
thank you
for providing a wonderful document.", however I was not looking
for a
"You asshole. We have no idea what you are talking about. Piss
off."
either. And the latter is what I got.
This whole thing could have been avoided had he either not
responded at
all if the message didn't concern him, respond with some USEFUL
feedback, or apologize for being a jerk to begin with.
As far as the "community" as a whole, go out there and read the
trade
publications and the publications that business decision makers
base
their decisions about the community on. They all, pretty much,
say the
same thing. Open Source is great. The people are not. That's
what it
boils down to.
> Cheers,
>
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