On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 1:51 PM Paul Heinlein <heinlein@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 3 Dec 2021, Josh Boyer wrote:
>
> Josh,
>
> Thank you for the reply! I'm still poking around Stream 9, trying to
> devise some site-specific configuration-management rules, so I
> appreciate all the information I can get.
>
> >> Of note: java, perl and ruby are entirely streams now, while python
> >> remains tied to the base OS. All RDBMS releases are streams. There
> >> is no Tomcat! libgcc is part of the base OS but is also a stream.
> >> I'm not sure how that will work.
> >
> > I can clarify that a bit. We have Application Streams and
> > separately the AppStream repo. The AppStream repo contains the
> > Application Streams, but it also contains things that are still part
> > of the standard OS that aren't what we'd consider "Base" or "core".
>
> Ah! I hadn't understood that distinction. Thanks for the
> clarification.
>
> > We'll have a similar page for RHEL 9 when that is released, but your
> > list of languages and RDBMS in CentOS Stream 9 is a good start. Also,
> > the python language stack will be slightly different in 9. We still
> > have a system python (platform-python in RHEL8/CentOS Stream 8), which
> > is python 3.9 but the packaging format is a more traditional RPM
> > packaging. The same concept applies to the system level gcc, and
> > therefore libgcc.
>
> Does that mean there might be, say, a python310 or gcc12 stream?
Version specifics aside, yes there will be newer python and gcc
(called gcc-toolset in RHEL 8) Application Streams in the future.
They won't exist for every upstream release, but selected versions
will be included.
josh
> > RHEL 8 does not include Tomcat either, so that is not new.
>
> Heh. I guess I should have looked at that. None of our internal Tomcat
> users have yet moved to EL8.
>
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