On 08.07.21 19:53, Gionatan Danti wrote:
Il 2021-07-08 16:46 Leon Fauster via CentOS ha scritto:
Maybe "we" could fill this gap? Describe this state of EPEL? Did you
requested such missing packages? From the early on (EL8.0) I requested
such EPEL packages, some fedora maintainers branched there packages into
EPEL8. Even a request for a devel package was honored and the rpm was
included by RH later in 8.1. This is a community, so communicate!
Everything else is a product in ready state that must be paid.
For what it is worth, I opened various RH bugzilla enhancement request
in the 10+ years of using CentOS. One of the last:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1902781
That said, lets face in: current CentOS is not really a community, at
least in the sense that a community can steer the project direction.
Nobody polled for Stream or asked about it. Stream simply happened due
to an unilateral Red Hat decision. *Which is PERFECTLY fine*, unless
trying to masking it behind the "community" word.
My view is that RH/CentOS would be relatively inadequate for many roles
without the outstanding work done by EPEL and the rest of the CentOS
community, unless you are an hyperscaler who can do its own internal
package additions. Red Hat failing to recognize the enormous value of
EPEL and former CentOS model really baffles me.
Good phrased. I see it exactly like this but let me take a dialectic
position just for the sake of insights. CentOS Linux (or Rocky Linux)
is a downstream rebuild, right? So, the fences are already set.
Right now, I am seeing a lot of requests in the Rocky forum, to add
new shiny stuff to the distribution and the answer to most of this
is (more or less); "we (Rocky) are a 1:1 rebuild of upstream and we can
not add new stuff in an arbitrary way". So, when talking about a
community then we have different concepts behind it. A RH ecosystem
community is not the same as a Debian community. It was never and it
will never be the same.
I see the RH ecosystem as a hybrid opportunity (perspective from the
outside), so not all "directions" can be influenced but there is enough
room to contribute to directions especially with Stream now.
PS: Do not get me wrong; the whole communication from RH about this
"CentOS Change" is catastrophically.
--
Leon
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