On 12/8/20 5:29 PM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 6:05 PM Johnny Hughes <johnny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/20 3:40 PM, Jim Bourne wrote:
>>> On 08/12/2020 15:48, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>>>> I promise you, to the best of my knowledge, IBM had nothing to do with
>>>> this decision. Red Hat is a distinct unit inside IBM and Red Hat still
>>>> has a CEO, CFO, etc. Red Hat also maintains a neutral relationship with
>>>> many IBM competitors. So this was not an IBM decision.
>>>
>>> Then WHO made the decision?
>>>
>>> Where was the transparency in this decision by the CentOS Board?
>>> (assuming CentOS still *has* a working independent board)
>>>
>>> Judging from the reactions, I don't believe that anyone saw this coming.
>>> Where was the community consultation on IF this was a good idea.
>>
>> The CentOS Project board has a Red Hat Liaison. That position is
>> documented here:
>>
>>
>> https://www.centos.org/about/governance/board-responsibilities/#red-hat-liaison-responsibilities
>>
>> Also see role of Liaison here (and look at B:):
>>
>> https://www.centos.org/about/governance/voting/
>>
>> The bottom line is .. a decision of the CentOS Board has been made and
>> we don't have to like it. We do have to do it, regardless of if we like
>> it.
>>
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> B. The Liaison may, in exceptional circumstances, make a decision on behalf
> of the Board if a consensus has not been reached on an issue that is deemed
> time or business critical by Red Hat.
>
>
>
> So, Johnny, are you saying that the RedHat Liaison, who is Brian Exelbierd (
> bexelbie@xxxxxxxxxx) has forced this decision on the CentOS Board, despite
> objection from the Board?
>
> Brian, please answer this directly, or the so called "Transparency" from
> RedHat and CentOS we were promised will be clearly shown to be a lie.
>
>
No .. I am saying that the CentOS Board knows that option exists, and
therefore we know that IF it is invoked, we get no say in what will
happen for that decision. I am saying that the CentOS Board therefore
made a hard decision given the situation we were in.
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