On Sat, Jun 20, 2020, 5:41 AM Peter <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 20/06/20 3:29 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> > How is this going to be fixed .. Welcome to CentOS Stream
> >
> > Stream will be , once it is fully implemented, the ACTUAL development of
> > RHEL the 'next point release' on git.centos.org in the open.
>
> So basically stream is a testing ground for RHEL. It's not actually a
> rebuild of RHEL since it's what comes *before* RHEL, not after.
>
> > It will be a rolling distro that is GOING to be the Source Code used for
> > next RHEL point release.
> >
> > Therefore, we will have all package as they are being worked on by the
> > RHEL Engineers .. and you can see it happen in progress. You can also
> > use it however you want. There will be no delay i this at all. It will
> > be constantly moving. There will be no 500 pacakges drop or delays.
>
> This is all well and good, but I don't think that CentOS was ever meant
> to be a testing ground for RHEL. As the name actually stands for it is
> a "Community Enterprise OS" and it has always been a rebuild of the RHEL
> sources. Stream is basically RHEL Rolling Beta, and that can hardly be
> considered "Enterprise".
>
> I and I think many others find this focus on Stream to be rather
> distressing, and it does have the appearance to be taking focus away
> from the core OS. This is further evidenced by the long wait times for
> release.
>
> The way I see it, Red Hat pays the bills now, Red Hat employs the core
> team, and Red Hat wants a RHEL Beta platform, so that is what they have
> decreed that CentOS will become. Now I could be wrong here because I
> certainly don't have any inside information about this, but it seems
> from teh outside looking in that any progress on the core OS is
> incidental and time spent on it has to be time leftover after any work
> is done on Stream.
>
> Now I don't have an issue with Stream, in fact I think taht Stream can
> be beneficial to CentOS, but it hsould not be at the expense of the core
> OS, imo. The core OS should take priority over any other CentOS
> project, whether it be streams, or SIGs or anything else, because we
> can't really have a Community Enterprise OS without the core OS.
>
>
> Peter
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+1 Streams is not for a production workload, if I wanted that I can easily
deploy an Arch instance if I want or need a rolling distro (it's not Redhat
etc but still). If Redhat wanted CentOS to be released near the same time
line they could help make that happen, although that wouldn't be in there
best financial interest.
Now maybe there will be a way to set streams up to only get security
updates and then when they release the .1 release you could update and have
everything update. If something like that could be worked out that would
work for me but I would only want security updates in between and I'm not
sure if that is possible.
>
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