On Tue, September 19, 2017 1:42 pm, Nux! wrote:
> Unfortunately the same can be said about Ruby, RoR, Python etc etc etc.
It is not as much true about languages themselves (though it is true, and
I for one call python "sneaky snake" just because of that ;-), as about
how the software using these languages is written. E.g. well known
mailman. I never had it give me any trouble wherever I have/had it
installed, even though it is written in "sneaky snake" (python). This is
example of brilliantly written software! So, all these incompatibilities
and upgrade trouble, or rather absence of thereof, is about how well the
programmers have written their code. Namely, whether they use only
fundamental abilities of the language which are unlikely to change for
long time, or chase after one day fancy features that tend to evaporate
quickly, or get transformed soon.
I probably should have put "rant" tags... or maybe shouldn't.
Valeri
>
> Personally I think it's perfectly reasonable to track Nextcloud upgrades
> combined with SCL major upgrades once every couple of years.
>
> Check life times here:
> https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/rhscl
>
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>
> Nux!
> www.nux.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jonathan Billings" <billings@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, 19 September, 2017 19:06:55
>> Subject: Re: CentOS, PHP & OwnCloud/Nextcloud: the version
>> dilemma
>
>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 07:59:00PM +0200, rainer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>> With PHP, I try to stay as close to upstream as possible.
>>> If upstream EOLs a version, it's time to upgrade.
>>>
>>> If you want something stable, don't run PHP.
>>
>> Unfortunately, with that philosophy but not much systems management
>> experience, you end up with custom-compiled and local installs of PHP
>> that get no security updates, particularly as you get version lock-in
>> by the web application developers, or when you have a sysadmin move on
>> to a new position or company.
>>
>> I think the statement "If you want something stable, don't run PHP" is
>> a very wise statement though.
>>
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