Am 2017-09-19 09:36, schrieb Nicolas Kovacs:
Hi,
I'm currently experimenting with OwnCloud and Nextcloud on a sandbox
CentOS 7 server. I've been using OwnCloud for the last two years for my
own purposes on a Slackware server, and I'm quite happy with it.
In my humble opinion, every admin who wants to host OwnCloud or
Nextcloud on a RHEL/CentOS server is confronted with a version dilemma.
1. CentOS 7 sports PHP 5.4, which has been officially EOL for quite
some
time, but Red Hat will provide security update backports until 2024.
Which is fine.
2. Currently supported versions of Nextcloud (namely the 11.x and 12.x
branch) require a minimum of PHP 5.6. Which seems reasonable. But if I
pull in PHP 5.6 from Webtatic, for example, I only get the "official"
PHP support, which will end in 2018 for the 5.6 branch. And no security
backports.
3. The solution would be to go with Nextcloud 10, which only requires
PHP 5.4, and which is also provided in package form by EPEL. 'yum info
nextcloud' shows that the current EPEL version is 10.0.4... but a peek
on the Nextcloud homepage shows me that this version is officially
unsupported. Uh oh.
4. Some of the stuff I'm hosting on my CentOS 7 server (like CMSMS) is
not compatible with PHP 7.x versions.
So right now I don't see a solution for this. As far as I can see, the
"least evil" solution would be to pull in PHP 5.6 from Webtatic and go
for Nextcloud 11.x, and have an EOL for both around next summer.
I'd be curious if some of you are familiar with this sort of dilemma (I
guess so) and how you manage it.
I'm not familiar with running PHP on CentOS at all.
IMO, the default PHP-RPMs are not designed to be used for anything as
dynamic as Own or NextCloud (or just about any other PHP project that
isn't already dead).
PHP has a completely different release-model than RHEL.
As such, the version of PHP that comes with RHEL will almost always be
outdated.
RedHat knows this and it seems it's available via SCL (Software
Collections).
There's this KB article about it:
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/2146821
The gist of this is:
"Resolution
PHP v7.0 is available , however PHP v7.1 is still not available. We are
already tracking this in a Feature Request to include rh-php-71 under
Bug 1435193.
PHP v7.0 was first made available for RHEL 6 & RHEL 7 via Red Hat
Software Collections (RHSCL) v2.3 as the rh-php70 collection
RHEA-2016:2730 - Product Enhancement Advisory"
https://www.softwarecollections.org/en/scls/rhscl/rh-php70/
With PHP, I try to stay as close to upstream as possible.
If upstream EOLs a version, it's time to upgrade.
If you want something stable, don't run PHP.
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