On 04/13/2017 03:01 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Thu, April 13, 2017 1:38 pm, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM, <m.roth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
On 04/12/2017 02:08 PM, m.roth@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
d) And then there stuff that I'm not sure of the purpose... like
eclipse, that needs 2GB to run... for an editor.
mark "my web pages proudly built in vi!"
And mine on medon.htt-consult.com done with Geany.
Using a editor that understands html tags so you can collapse ones not
being edited does make life simpler. Also lets you know, indirectly,
when your copy and pasting messed up the tag pairing.
Yeah, well, I've tried word processors, and, years back, I tried
Quanta,
which was specifically for working on web pages, and the HTML generated by
all word processors sucks dead Mar-a-Lago roaches. And *all* of them want
to left-justify, even if there's an option not to, and you set that,
rather than leaving it properly indented.
Just to add a bit to discussion. There are tools (editors) to edit html
code for web pages. Looking at some html documents I see a lot of junk
added by these tools. Who will blame stupid program that is designed to
handle everything for doing that? Not me. But I do not what any junk
inside anything I wrote. Do you want "mozilla generator" in the hidden
field of your html document?
That is why I use Geany. It gives you a very basic html template and
you go from there.
I have been 'learning on the job' to make decent boxes for my commands,
with bars when needed.
Still working on it and would love to have a copy to clipboard button,
but all the various examples I have found are not working.
But I must confess: I do not write html or
php webpages (except for most trivial ones, or editing ones written by
someone else). And as Mark I use vi for that (and almost for everything,
fancy formatted printouts may be exemption). Will you be surprised by the
fact that some web servers are configured to not serve files ending with
tilde symbol "~"? As these will be served as text verbatim, and therefore
will disclose whateve you have inside file with the same name without
tilde. I know more than one web developer who use emacs, edits files in
situ (not elsewhere) and never even think of cleaning xxxx~ files.
Valeri
The forced left justify part reminds me of a conversation I had
with a vendor last year. It was something on the lines of "I know this
might come as a shock to you but there are people out there who has
phone numbers that are not exactly 9 digits long and postal codes with
letters and numbers."
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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
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