On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> On Thu, April 13, 2017 1:38 pm, Mauricio Tavares wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM, <m.roth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> >>> On 04/12/2017 02:08 PM, m.roth@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >>>> d) And then there stuff that I'm not sure of the purpose... like
> eclipse, that needs 2GB to run... for an editor.
> >>>> mark "my web pages proudly built in vi!"
> >>> And mine on medon.htt-consult.com done with Geany.
> >>> Using a editor that understands html tags so you can collapse ones not
> being edited does make life simpler. Also lets you know, indirectly,
> when your copy and pasting messed up the tag pairing.
> >> Yeah, well, I've tried word processors, and, years back, I tried
> Quanta,
> >> which was specifically for working on web pages, and the HTML generated
> by
> >> all word processors sucks dead Mar-a-Lago roaches. And *all* of them
> want
> >> to left-justify, even if there's an option not to, and you set that,
> rather than leaving it properly indented.
>
> Just to add a bit to discussion. There are tools (editors) to edit html
> code for web pages. Looking at some html documents I see a lot of junk
> added by these tools. Who will blame stupid program that is designed to
> handle everything for doing that? Not me. But I do not what any junk
> inside anything I wrote. Do you want "mozilla generator" in the hidden
> field of your html document? But I must confess: I do not write html or
> php webpages (except for most trivial ones, or editing ones written by
> someone else). And as Mark I use vi for that (and almost for everything,
> fancy formatted printouts may be exemption). Will you be surprised by the
> fact that some web servers are configured to not serve files ending with
> tilde symbol "~"? As these will be served as text verbatim, and therefore
> will disclose whateve you have inside file with the same name without
> tilde. I know more than one web developer who use emacs, edits files in
> situ (not elsewhere) and never even think of cleaning xxxx~ files.
>
> Valeri
>
> > The forced left justify part reminds me of a conversation I had
> > with a vendor last year. It was something on the lines of "I know this
> might come as a shock to you but there are people out there who has
> phone numbers that are not exactly 9 digits long and postal codes with
> letters and numbers."
> >
>
>
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> Valeri Galtsev
> Sr System Administrator
> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
> University of Chicago
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>
I have been known to code complete html sites with pretty deep css in vi :)
I use Atom lately for any code work and like it.
https://atom.io/
Cameron
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