Re: Network services start before network is up since migrating to 7.2

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Em 22-12-2015 08:33, Sylvain CANOINE escreveu:

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De: "Marcelo Ricardo Leitner" <marcelo.leitner@xxxxxxxxx>
À: "centos" <centos@xxxxxxxxxx>
Envoyé: Lundi 21 Décembre 2015 21:46:10
Objet: Re:  Network services start before network is up since migrating to 7.2

Agreed. Sylvain, if possible, please elaborate on their reasoning for
this, because it just seems like a case of "we fear what we don't know",
so they are recommending to stick to old habits instead.

Or have they identified real attack vectors in NM? If yes, we would love
to hear that so it can be fixed.
In short, "you don't need it, so don't use it".
They said NM is more a desktop-oriented tool, already had privilege escalation issues in the past (I didn't search if they're right), has too many dependencies (such as wpa_supplicant and avahi, which are, of course, also forbidden), needs extra mechanisms (PAM ? Polkit ?) to avoid users changing its settings, needs D-bus just to work, so it is too much complex just to set static IP addresses on network interfaces. They said multiples administrator actions, and potentially human errors, to set it up, may be a security risk...

Gotta say, this policy is very subjective. These reasons, they fit pretty much everything else too. If memory serves, sudo also had privilege escalation issues in the past, but it's needed. NM is just a newborn and soon will be required. They are free to wait for it to mature more, yes, but just keep in mind that at least for now, that's a certain future, NM is getting more and more mainstream.

NM already can be used only during startup, with no daemon running after that. That helps a lot already with the reasoning they presented.

Thanks for sharing that.

  Marcelo

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