Re: Documentation link on new Firefox CentOS 7 splash screen

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On 01/18/2015 12:29 PM, Digimer wrote:
> On 18/01/15 03:45 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote:
>> On 01/18/2015 02:14 AM, Mark LaPierre wrote:
>>> On 01/15/15 22:55, Darr247 wrote:
>>>> On 16 January 2015 @00:34 zulu, Digimer wrote:
>>>>> So either the link should be changed or the linked page should be
>>>>> updated.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, until someone rewrites the redhat docs so they don't violate
>>>> copyright laws, and links to them on that centos.org/docs page, I'll
>>>> continue perusing and referring to the RHEL 6 and 7 documentation.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>> Alright then.  May I suggest a solution that might satisfy both
opinions.
>>>
>>> On the documentation page where the links to CentOS [345] are found
>>> place a statement to this effect:
>>>
>>> "CentOS is functionally equivalent to Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL)
>>
>> but its not.
>>
>>> and is based on the same code, as released by Red Hat, and rebuilt by
>>> the CentOS community."  At this point briefly explain the moral
>>
>> that does not make it functionally equivalent.
>>
>>> conundrum that prevents you from linking directly to the RHEL
>>> documentation.  Then provide the appropriate link to the appropriate
>>> RHEL documentation with the explanation that, "this is a link to the
>>> documentation for RHEL upon which CentOS is based."  There you have a
>>> disclaimer as well as an attribution.
>>>
>>> What say yea to this proposal?
>>
>> why not just say 'CentOS Linux is derived from Red Hat Enterprise Linux
>> sources as released via git.centos.org and therefore documentation
>> applicable to Red Hat Enterprise Linux should largely apply to CentOS
>> Linux of the same version, architecture and release.'
>>
>> And leave it at that ( note: no linking, therefore no assertions of
>> compatibility or equivallencce ).
>>
>>> An undocumented computer program differs only slightly from a video
>>> game.  Both are filled with mysteries, puzzles, and unanswered
questions.
>>
>> Therefore, lets do the right thing - get the means together in community
>> to adapt those docs, brand them accordingly and publish them under
>> centos.org
>
> Is it legal to copy the documentation and replace trademarks? IANAL... :)
>
> Alternatively, if we can't copy RHEL docs, can we copy Fedora 12~13,
18~19 docs and adapt as needed? Or would be have to write everything
from scratch?
>

Yes, you can absolutely use the sources for Fedora Docs, providing the
already stated measures to deal with the trademark issues are
performed.  Everything is at https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/docs/ .

I would encourage anyone interested to delve in a bit more than copy +
regex though.  There are entities to interpolate, for example; we'd take
patches to replace "Fedora" with "&PRODUCT;" to make things easier for
the CentOS folks, for example - and in many places, you'll see things
like that already, because RHEL docs are downstream too.  A CentOS
publican brand would give the derivative books a distinct identity
without diverging the sources.  Or, some CentOS writers might want to
Storage Administration Guide, which hasn't been updated for a Fedora in
quite a while, and most updates for el7 would be great for the current
Fedora users too.

I'm sure there are many areas where active collaboration would be a win
for both distributions.  At this point, maybe the centos-docs and/or
docs@xxxxxxxx.o lists would be a better venue?

- -- 
- -- Pete Travis
 - Fedora Docs Project Leader
 - 'randomuser' on freenode
 - immanetize@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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