On 01/11/2015 09:38 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Sun, January 11, 2015 8:29 pm, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote:
On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote:
On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat
if
I
look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I chose RedHat way
back, - that was when all Debian (and its clones like Ubuntu,...)
admins
were fighting with the consequences of this:
http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571 . If I had Debian machine
I
would not only regenerate all key pairs, certs, etc. I would question
sanity of that box then, and will not be certain what confidential
stuff
could have been stolen from it... I realized then that that level big
flop
never happened to RedHat. I couldn't even point to something that
would
constitute big flop RedHat of then. One only criticizes something
while
one cares about it ;-)
Heartbleed was pretty scary, no? I'd consider that at least as bad as
the predictable number generator issue.
Well, heratbleed and shellshock were pretty much global: all systems
(not
only Linuxes, not to say particular Linux distributions - my FreeBSD
boxes
were affected too) using openssl or bash were affected... Same bad, yet
these were not flops of particular distribution, so whichever system you
decided to stick with , you had these. Not certain about you, but this
kind of makes difference for me. When I say I'm happy about [me choosing
way back] RedHat heartbleed, no heartbleed, no difference.
Valeri
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University of Chicago
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I guess everyone will have an opinion of systemd whether it be good or
bad. The only resolution is to either use a distro that has systemd on
it, use a distro that DOESN'T have systemd on it...or build your OWN
distro and don't include systemd! I guess when it all boils down to it,
there's STILL choice.....even when it doesn't seem like there is!
I wouldn't quite agree with you about someone building one's own Linux
distro without systemd. You see, systemd _IS_ in the mainstrem Linux
kernel which you imminently have to use. Having distro with kernel to that
level not mainstream, so systemd related stuff is stripped off it is quite
a task. Less that writing one's own kernel and building system based on
it, still...
Valeri
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University of Chicago
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I am sorry...you're right. I was basing that statement on the devs who
forked Debian to make Devuan. I assumed that they are building a version
of the linux kernel with no systemd in it. (Maybe I'm wrong?....will
have to check out a few articles and find out what's really going on!)
My apologies...once again....
EGO II
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