On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 03:43:47PM -0400, m.roth@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > First mistake: what makes you think we're your "team"? This is an open > mailing list that we've all subscribed to, and we're all over the world, > and in various positions and skillsets. We are not your "team". I agree with Mark here (imaginey that); and to add to that I consider this it poor taste, if not outright insulting, to just assume we are on the same team. We're not. I for one will not be part of a "team" with people that expect others to do their job for them. > Right - how *did* he get that title (or did he just make it up)? ^ that. I am not trying to come down on the OP here, this is part of a much larger problem. The problem is one of entitlement and laziness. You can couch this in whatever politically correct (ask me about my thoughts on that some time) phrasing you want, but it all boils down to this. People have forgotten how to do things on their own and expect everyone else to just drop what they're doing so they can work on the problems of others. Well, life's not like that. People damned well need to start doing at least a modicum of research on their own. This problem is becoming more and more prevalent as time goes on; and quite frankly the level of competence in IT and surrounding fields has been going steadily down the toilet for quite some time because of it. And people that defend, to whatever degree, this type of behavior are part of the overall problem. Three is a huge difference between helping others and coddling them; start helping and stop coddling. If _I_ can manage to do my job without having to depend on others I'm pretty sure it's a fair bet others can as well. John -- Much of what looks like rudeness in hacker circles is not intended to give offense. Rather, it's the product of the direct, cut-through-the-bullshit communications style that is natural to people who are more concerned about solving problems than making others feel warm and fuzzy. http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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