I'm going to exam tomorrow.
>>RHCE is usually the "baseline", RHCSA is a bit junior cert.
Yes, but candidates must have rhcsa to exam rhce.
Read about this: http://www.redhat.com/training/courses/ex300/
On 6 June 2013 01:17, Eero Volotinen <eero.volotinen@xxxxxx> wrote:
> RHCE is usually the "baseline", RHCSA is a bit junior cert.
>
>
> 2013/6/5 Justin Edmands <shockwavecs@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Micky <mickylmartin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Johnny Hughes <johnny@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > >> On 06/02/2013 11:39 AM, Micky wrote:
> > >>> Unless you really wanna spend money on it, I would say that
> > >>> certification is just a piece of paper. Ah discard that, in this
> case,
> > >>> it is not even a piece of paper since you don't get one after
> passing!
> > >>>
> > >>> Have been there, seen the guys who knew more than CEs or SAs.
> > >>>
> > >>> Just get the books, read them, study the docs and put it to use!
> > >>
> > >> This is just not true. Most companies who actually hire workers and
> pay
> > >> salaries want certified people.
> > >
> > > Yes it is not unless you are Judith Shine or Charley Babbage. Have you
> > > managed to find a dream job like that?
> > > People in the HR don't know the shit about most certifications. They
> > > treat all cattle the same!
> > >
> > >> One can certainly get a job without a certification and it does not
> mean
> > >> that the person who has a certification is the best thing since sliced
> > >> bread ... however, it certainly proves that the person with the
> > >> certification has a certain set of minimal qualifications.
> > >
> > > That is also not true. I see the Red Hat certification dogma following
> > > M$ track lately.
> > > If you claim that you certainly haven't been to the *real* market
> > > outside! If you have been to one, recently, you would know that no
> > > matter what certification you get, you'll mostly end up to the same
> > > line in the chain of food. The probability of exceptions are one a
> > > hundred thousand!
> > >
> > >> In other words, it does not raise the ceiling (or high water mark or
> > >> maximum) for knowledge level, but it certainly raises the floor (or
> low
> > >> water mark or minimum) knowledge that you know the person has.
> > >
> > > That can also be attained by just reading books, docs and most of all,
> > > its application.
> > >
> > >> It also shows that they are at least a little concerned about what
> they
> > >> look like professionally.
> > >
> > > Yea yea yea, I don't want to talk about my certifications.
> > >
> > >> In my experience, people who complain about how little certifications
> > >> mean don't have any and are too lazy to care about getting any ...
> your
> > >> mileage may vary.
> > >
> > > In my opinion, the people pushing you towards a certification have
> > > either something to gain from it, affiliated with the grand scheme of
> > > corporate profits somehow, are rich or they have simply have been
> > > sadly out-of-the-loop from real world!
> > >
> > > Although ignorance is a bliss but certifications don't really matter,
> > > knowledge does!
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> > A lot easier to justify paying you more money than others if you have a
> > certification to show your level of expertise. It's also a way to have
> the
> > younger guys to stack up against the older guys. So maybe that's the
> metric
> > that they are looking for. I am young but was hired based on experience.
> I
> > think the certs gave some credibility based on the time that I received
> the
> > cert. A "senior" Linux admin is at least 5 years in some jobs. So having
> my
> > cert dated back far enough is some form of proof that I have been into it
> > that long.
> >
> > That being said if you need to take a class to barely get the RHCSA....
> > Then you probably shouldn't be a systems administrator...yet.
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