RHCE is usually the "baseline", RHCSA is a bit junior cert.
2013/6/5 Justin Edmands <shockwavecs@xxxxxxxxx>
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> On Jun 5, 2013, at 5:32 AM, Micky <mickylmartin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Johnny Hughes <johnny@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> >> On 06/02/2013 11:39 AM, Micky wrote:
> >>> Unless you really wanna spend money on it, I would say that
> >>> certification is just a piece of paper. Ah discard that, in this case,
> >>> it is not even a piece of paper since you don't get one after passing!
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> >>> Have been there, seen the guys who knew more than CEs or SAs.
> >>>
> >>> Just get the books, read them, study the docs and put it to use!
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> >> This is just not true. Most companies who actually hire workers and pay
> >> salaries want certified people.
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> > Yes it is not unless you are Judith Shine or Charley Babbage. Have you
> > managed to find a dream job like that?
> > People in the HR don't know the shit about most certifications. They
> > treat all cattle the same!
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> >> One can certainly get a job without a certification and it does not mean
> >> that the person who has a certification is the best thing since sliced
> >> bread ... however, it certainly proves that the person with the
> >> certification has a certain set of minimal qualifications.
> >
> > That is also not true. I see the Red Hat certification dogma following
> > M$ track lately.
> > If you claim that you certainly haven't been to the *real* market
> > outside! If you have been to one, recently, you would know that no
> > matter what certification you get, you'll mostly end up to the same
> > line in the chain of food. The probability of exceptions are one a
> > hundred thousand!
> >
> >> In other words, it does not raise the ceiling (or high water mark or
> >> maximum) for knowledge level, but it certainly raises the floor (or low
> >> water mark or minimum) knowledge that you know the person has.
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> > That can also be attained by just reading books, docs and most of all,
> > its application.
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> >> It also shows that they are at least a little concerned about what they
> >> look like professionally.
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> > Yea yea yea, I don't want to talk about my certifications.
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> >> In my experience, people who complain about how little certifications
> >> mean don't have any and are too lazy to care about getting any ... your
> >> mileage may vary.
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> > In my opinion, the people pushing you towards a certification have
> > either something to gain from it, affiliated with the grand scheme of
> > corporate profits somehow, are rich or they have simply have been
> > sadly out-of-the-loop from real world!
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> > Although ignorance is a bliss but certifications don't really matter,
> > knowledge does!
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> A lot easier to justify paying you more money than others if you have a
> certification to show your level of expertise. It's also a way to have the
> younger guys to stack up against the older guys. So maybe that's the metric
> that they are looking for. I am young but was hired based on experience. I
> think the certs gave some credibility based on the time that I received the
> cert. A "senior" Linux admin is at least 5 years in some jobs. So having my
> cert dated back far enough is some form of proof that I have been into it
> that long.
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> That being said if you need to take a class to barely get the RHCSA....
> Then you probably shouldn't be a systems administrator...yet.
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