Re: not using LVM for Linux VM guests?

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On 11/16/2011 09:37 PM, Smithies, Russell wrote:
> I came across an old post comment yesterday (from http://echenh.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-to-extend-lvm-on-vmware-guest-os.html ) discussing the "hack" of LVM on Linux VM guests and whether it's better not to use it to simplify disk management.
> I've re-posted the comment below, does it sound reasonable? Is it better to not use LVM on Linux VM guests?
>
> --Russell
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------
> At my job, after doing the same kind of procedure graph, we began to ask ourselves, why are using a LVM on a Linux VM guests?
>
> Since we're no longer living in the physical OS world, we didn't need to use the OS hacks(LVM) to overcome physical disk limitations anymore.
> We decided to Just let the hypervisor and virtual storage do that work for us.
>
> For example, in our production setup (3 tier commerce with VMs for database , webserver, and appserver), we're see a great improvement in managability and performance (>10%) by just dropping LVM, and most partitions.
>
> In your example, the resize process is 7 functional steps:
> 1. Increase size of VMDK
> 2. In VM OS, Create Partition (??)
> 3. REBOOT (!!)
> 4. PVCreate
> 5. VGExtend
> 6. LVExtend
> 7. Resize2fs
>
> Going to a LVM/partition-less setup reduces expansion to 3 steps and we don't need to take the VM OS offline!
> 1. Increase size of VMDK
> 2- Inside the VM, OS, rescan the scsi drive with:'echo 1>/sys/class/scsi_device//rescan; dmesg' (dmesg will check that you drive isize has grown)
> 3- Resize2fs.
>
> Our current disk arrangement has 3 VM HD devices
> 0 - small device (100M) with a single BOOT partition
> 1 - entire device is /
> 2 - entire device is SWAP
>
> Doing this has simplified resizing so much, I now let the junior admins and my manager expand drive space as needed.
>
> It's also let's us really be spartan on space since expansion is so quick. Instead of increasing systems in 30-50GB chunks, we can do 10-15GB and let our rmonitoring system warn us when space gets tight.

I'm not sure what the exact setup is but on the standard CentOS 5 setup you 
can extend the space of a LVM-based guest without rebooting the guest.
Just add another virtual disk and it will immediately appear in the guest. 
Set it up there as physical volume, add it to the main volume group and 
then resize2fs the root filesystem. No restart or downtime required.

Regards,
   Dennis

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