Re: Changes at Red Hat confouding CentOS (was: What happened to 6.1)

[m.roth@xxxxxxxxx]

Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
> On 11/15/2011 05:23 PM, m.roth@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> Les Mikesell wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Timothy Murphy<gayleard@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Incidentally, I don't really understand
>>>> what is meant by the term "desktop" nowadays.
>>>> I always think of it as a contrast to laptop.
>>>
>>> 'Desktop' is in contrast to 'server'.  On a server, you only reboot to
>>> load a new kernel and you never use the console display, rarely change
>>
>> Oh, I dunno - it's not infrequently that I have to plug in a
>> monitor-on-a-stick....
>
> Supermicro boards come with IPMI on-board these days so you can do all
> that work that you previously did standing next to the server from the
> confines of your cozy home. This is even more useful when you server is
> sitting in a rack in a cold, noisy, dry collocation facility.

Um, reality check time: what colo? I've got two server rooms, er,
"computer labs", and a very small one. In the two, we've got maybe 150 or
more servers. We don't have them all wired with IPMI. In fact, we don't
have any of them cabled that way. Lessee, wouldn't that be an extra port
for each server? Or a few servers with their own switches, and all those
servers cabled? That's a lot of work for the three of us, *and* there are
plenty of times when no, IPMI either a) doesn't work, or b) you have to
physically powercycle the damn thing. Or the one that I have to run down
to and hit <f1> so it'll finish posting. Or be there because I forgot to
tell it fastboot before I rebooted it (or it rebooted), and I have to
powercycle it, because, as a production box, we can't wait four or six
hours for the fsck to complete. (Don't get me started on *that* state of
affairs.)

        mark

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