On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 22:08 +0200, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:00 +0100, Always Learning wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 13:55 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2011 01:33:31 PM Always Learning wrote: > > > > Rather than being a willing or passive victim to 100% of the attacks, I > > > > aim to reduce the penetrability of most of them. > > > Still useless: it is not the attacks that you know about and that show > themselves as errors in your logs (and filter from the log, that is the > only gain), but those where you have a real security hole that you have > to worry about. And those will be exploited from one of the many other > bots in the hackers botnet. Geachte Louis, Ik ben niet hek ook niet stom! Ik weet het wel dat it is the undetected attacks that potentially can cause most damage. Perhaps I know this better than most people because when I first got a Centos VPS, and it was doing nothing, a partially installed Horde provided a entry for some Romanians who used that server as a IRC host. It was careful reading of the logs which revealed the successful break-in. I therefore highly recommend reading the various logs because they may reveal unusual happenings. > An empty log may give you a nice feeling of security, but it > is false... > A lot of work, but very little if any gain. Onzin. An empty log never ever gives me a sense of security because the first thing I am thinking is why is the log empty. Sensitive applications have a self-generated log stored away from the conventional logs and regularly perused. My logic to is seal-off as many potential accesses as possible. Your logic seems to be "do not bother because the successful attack will be unexpected". Ik ben zeker niet eens met jouw. I certainly disagree with that philosophy. ADULT EDUCATION ADVERTISEMENT The more one does in Centos investigating things and sealing-off IPs and ports and experimenting with IP Tables etc., the more one learns about the functioning of the Centos operating system. This acquired learning evolves into skills and is beneficial. Its acquisition will encourage people to understand more about their Centos installation(s) and make them more aware of the various risks and the wonderful things Centos can offer. Hoogachtend of mvg, Paul. _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS@xxxxxxxxxx http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos