>>Right, but you got me interested in whether an actual open source >>solution to native Windows MS-Kerberos account management exists when >>you say that Samba 3.0 could be an ADS DC. > > > To a point. You do _not_ have to have any MS ADS DC on your network to > do a lot, trust me. The problem is that most people assume the only > way. It's quite the opposite -- it's putting MS in charge, and that's > something you want to avoid or segment. I just want Kerberos. I am not interested in the LDAP part of ADS. > > >>and native MS account management on Unix? > > > By "native" -- what do you mean? centralized Kerberos account management that Windows 2000/XP clients will accept in domain mode. > You mean 100% MS schema in their LDAP? Forget LDAP. > Again, that's going to be awhile. Yes, i know the openldap guys have not shown much interest in adding MS-LDAP rpc stuff. > > Now the Samba team has their own, both CLI (net) and additional projects > are out there. But that's still looking at it "narrow-mindedly." eh? > > Consider, for a moment, an entire Windows enterprise that relies on an > open-backend, like NsDS, Sun One, etc...? Heck, even Novell eDirectory. > Novell has a lot of management tools for Windows, some work pretty damn > good too (like Xen). That requires a different GINA right? > > But even that aside, you can do quite a bit with NsDS (or OpenLDAP), > Samba 3.0's added schema and RPC functions, and SASL/Kerberos for the > password store. But if you expect it to support all the nuiances and > all the little schema that are in all sorts of MS services (like MS SQL, > Exchange, etc...), that's going to be a _long_time_. > > But don't think you have to have a native MS ADS DC to manage Windows > clients -- not at all! > Right, so what open source option(s) do we have to single-logon Kerberos? (please assume apps are also kerberosized)