This is the first time I have tried Centros and I must say that I am a very happy camper. But maybe my needs/goals are simple: I need HTTP and FTP servers that support Apache, PHP and Interbase (yes, that "funny" DB that runs and runs). RH 9 was like that and so was FC 3, BUT FC 4 was something else...could not even get it to install (like others). And this forum has been VERY helpful for me. But I do feel a litfle guilt (sure it will diminish in time) because of all of the hours RH put into making RHEL 4 work smoothly. Of course the guys and gals on this forum are my support...not RH and so far nobdy has sent me a bill :-) ! Thanks to all as I go about installing Firebird (Interbase) and making an interbase.so file. Todd P.S. And thanks for putting up with my questions. Manuals and my dyslexia have never had a good relationship! -- Ariste Software 200 D Street Ext Petaluma, CA 94952 (707) 773-4523