} } If you check the Message-ID, they are _all_ the _same_ } thread. } } Maintaining the root subject helps avoid this, just append } follow-ups with the relevant change in focus. } } E.g., I did when we went someone brought up nscd. } I did it again when BIND was clearly the focus. } I did the same when I focused on the Windows client. } } If you view the archives, they are so threaded _together_. } } If you [re-]append the subject, and sort by thread, date or } even subject, you can easily pick out the relevant posts you } are interested in (without having to read _all_ of them). } } And they still sort well by subject, _unlike_ pre-pending the } subject with something different. That should _only_ be done } when the subject changes massively. } } Mailing lists via SMTP, just like UseNet groups via NNTP, can } benefit from this approach which was laid out in the O'Reilly } Posting Guidelines from long ago. } } -- } Bryan J. Smith thanks Bryan, appreciated. like i said, i am not an expert at threads etc and i am currently using a braindead mailer etc till i can consolidate and switch. :) -- Robert Hanson Abba Communications http://www.abbacomm.net