On 12/12/2017 10:29 AM, Fabian Arrotin wrote: > On 12/12/17 17:25, Akemi Yagi wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Fabian Arrotin <arrfab@xxxxxxxxxx >> <mailto:arrfab@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote: >> >> it's all in the title : what's next for wiki.centos.org >> <http://wiki.centos.org> ? >> >> As a reminder, current wiki.centos.org <http://wiki.centos.org> >> instance is powered by moinmoin >> (https://moinmo.in/) but quite an old version (moin-1.5.8-3.el6.noarch) >> >> Recently I had a quick look at trying to update/upgrade that version to >> something newer/supported, but it's a nightmare : the data conversion >> just kill the target server (oom) and no way to know why. When trying to >> get help from moin people in their irc server, I was answered that such >> old version wasn't supported, and that those upgrade scripts themselves >> aren't supported either, so nobody would help finding why they'd be >> buggy without having access to the full data. >> >> Of course exposing the whole wiki instance (including user/pass) isn't >> an option, so except if somebody has really a clue about what can go >> wrong with the update script from 1.5 to 1.6 (and then it has to be done >> for each major.minor upgrade, so all that in a chained operation), the >> migration will be impossible. >> >> That's why I'd like to discuss a possibility to move wiki to something >> else, and that's even why we should discuss the need for a wiki itself. >> >> If we want to continue to have community written/maintained content, >> should be still use a wiki or something else ? Moin was selected ~10y >> ago for its simplicity and online editing, but in 2017, most people (dev >> and ops) are probably using other workflows, like git/pull-requests/etc. >> >> So what about exploring other possibilities ? >> >> I don't have a real proposal (even if mkdocs.org <http://mkdocs.org> >> , simple solution with >> Markdown, combined with git would be perfect for me) but just wanted to >> start a dedicated thread so that we can think about the future of >> wiki.centos.org <http://wiki.centos.org> >> >> Opinions ? Proposals ? anything else ? Fee free to comment :-) >> >> >> I personally would like to see an update to the current wiki. However >> if this is not plausible, maybe an alternative like mediawiki can be >> considered? >> >> One note I want to make is that use of git may not be suitable/best for >> docs and certainly will be frowned upon by some notable contributors to >> the current wiki. >> >> Akemi >> > > *ack* > > So maybe we should try to reach out the moinmoin people to see if they'd > like to see us continuing using moin or switch to something else. > > Mediawiki can be investigated, as that's also Fedora switched to in the > past. > So we already know that : > - openid auth works (against FAS, so that will work with ACO) > - they probably had some migration scripts somewhere that we can test if > needed) I don't really have any preferences .. other than, not github, unless it is the ONLY thing that would work. I have an issue using non open source solution unless it is a last resort,
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