"Reindl Harald" <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Am 10.08.2013 16:52, schrieb Tobias Kreidl: >> It is for this specific reason that utilities like suPHP can be used as a powerful tool to at least keep the >> account user from shooting anyone but him/herself in the foot because of any configuration or broken security >> issues. Allowing suexec to anyone but a seasoned, responsible admin is IMO a recipe for disaster. > > and what makes you believe that a developer can not be a "seasoned, responsible admin"? Because developers write functions like "system", "symlink" and "suexec" which can create havoc (and are WELL-KNOWN for creating havoc since years) and allow everybody to call them in the default configuration of their software. > bullshit, many of the "seasoned, responsible admins" which are only > admins are unable to really understand the implications of whatever > config they rollout It was the developer who created and published this vulnerable software or the vulnerable default configuration in the first place. If a user/administrator who installs software has to turn insecure features OFF its the developer who is to blame, and of course the testers, the QA and the management too. Stefan Kanthak