On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, Marchand, Tom wrote: > If the bug was found by disassembling Sybase's code then Sybase probably > does have a legal position to do this. I haven't read Sybase's EULA but > most have a provision prohibiting reverse engineering of code. It is certainly possible to discover security flaws without reverse engineering. You don't need to get to the point where you know how the internals of a program are built. Injecting crafted data into a program's inputs and observing whether or not it crashes or misbehaves is simply using the program. If it is decided by the courts that all security analysis is covered by a blanket EULA no reverse engineering provision, a potential solution for security researchers is to require that the vendor indemnify them from reverse engineering civil suits before disclosing information them. -Chris